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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by mclaren55
Yea, but at the end of the day that person still has that 8 second slip, and you don't. I like seeing people with other power adders on their car criticize others for running spray. Grow up, its a power adder, just like a super/turbo charger. A lot of people build spray specific engines and others build NA, turbo, blower setups. Whatever floats your boat, just don't knock someones accomplishment because they didn't go about it in a way that you approve.
I'm really impressed with the skill it takes to set up a bottle system .....go back to The Fast and the Furious.

You seriously are going to compare installing a supercharger or turbos to The Bottle? Uhmm, you run a SC or Turbo all day long. You press a button with spray and you get instant power shot for a few seconds. Yep, they are nearly identical

Yeah, I added the TT system to my 996tt just yesterday

Installing headers, cams, gears, exhaust......hell, even an ECU flash is cool with me. ****, anybody can hook a bottle up to a car with 150 less HP and for a few seconds have a faster car. Oh boy, thats really cool and proves what?.....it proves that you can effectively press a button and get a boost of power. A monkey could do that.

I'm not saying what is right or wrong. I'm saying I'm not impressed by anybody's time that is running spray and its NOT the same as adding a turbo charger or SC.
 

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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 09:17 AM
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No big deal, I ran 9.70's all day long with the bottle (200 shot, 2 stage) in my 1970 440-6 cuda 15 years ago, and drove it to work everyday. I am much more impressed by the n/a times.
 
Old Apr 4, 2007 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by amerlemans
I'm really impressed with the skill it takes to set up a bottle system .....go back to The Fast and the Furious.

You seriously are going to compare installing a supercharger or turbos to The Bottle? Uhmm, you run a SC or Turbo all day long. You press a button with spray and you get instant power shot for a few seconds. Yep, they are nearly identical

Yeah, I added the TT system to my 996tt just yesterday

Installing headers, cams, gears, exhaust......hell, even an ECU flash is cool with me. ****, anybody can hook a bottle up to a car with 150 less HP and for a few seconds have a faster car. Oh boy, thats really cool and proves what?.....it proves that you can effectively press a button and get a boost of power. A monkey could do that.

I'm not saying what is right or wrong. I'm saying I'm not impressed by anybody's time that is running spray and its NOT the same as adding a turbo charger or SC.
it's no more of a "corked bat" than TT or a SC. Yes it only lasts for a few seconds, but so what, it's very effective at producing a solid amount of power IF you can tune it properly, and it does work very well. I wouldn't compare it to an N/A car, but in a race against a TT or SC you would be surprised how well it can hold up if it's setup properly.

Oh, but then again all those PRO MOD cars running 800ci engines with 3 stage nitrous systems going 6.1x at 220mph are cheating right, compared to the guys running a 16-71 twin screw blower making 35psi.

You post is VERY ignorant as it sounds like you don't even really understand how it works and what it takes to make it work effectively without just blowing the motor up. You don't have to like it (for whatever reason is beyond me) but to call it cheating makes YOU look bad.
 

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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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it's no more of a "corked bat" than TT or a SC. Yes it only lasts for a few seconds, but so what, it's very effective at producing a solid amount of power IF you can tune it properly, and it does work very well. I wouldn't compare it to an N/A car, but in a race against a TT or SC you would be surprised how well it can hold up if it's setup properly.

Oh, but then again all those PRO MOD cars running 800ci engines with 3 stage nitrous systems going 6.1x at 220mph are cheating right, compared to the guys running a 16-71 twin screw blower making 35psi.

You post is VERY ignorant as it sounds like you don't even really understand how it works and what it takes to make it work effectively without just blowing the motor up. You don't have to like it (for whatever reason is beyond me) but to call it cheating makes YOU look bad.
I was amazed by the nice response, until I saw this:
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Vicious
it's no more of a "corked bat" than TT or a SC. Yes it only lasts for a few seconds, but so what, it's very effective at producing a solid amount of power IF you can tune it properly, and it does work very well. I wouldn't compare it to an N/A car, but in a race against a TT or SC you would be surprised how well it can hold up if it's setup properly.

Oh, but then again all those PRO MOD cars running 800ci engines with 3 stage nitrous systems going 6.1x at 220mph are cheating right, compared to the guys running a 16-71 twin screw blower making 35psi.

You post is VERY ignorant as it sounds like you don't even really understand how it works and what it takes to make it work effectively without just blowing the motor up. You don't have to like it (for whatever reason is beyond me) but to call it cheating makes YOU look bad.
How many cars come from the manufacturer with spray? I'll save you the time......None, Zippy, Nada.

How many different cars come from the manufacturer SC'd or with Turbos? Many

I'm talking about street legal cars that also take a pass at some 1/4 miles times and then drive them home. I'm not talking about PRO MOD cars. If you want to talk that I believe you are in the wrong forum.

Like I said, you can do what you want but you aren't going to impress but so many people with your times running spray. I think its a joke. What does that have to do with how strong a car you have. It doesn't mean ****.

On top of that, who in their right mind runs a modern day car like the Z06 on spray? How many 996tt or 997tt owners run spray? I've yet to see one.

Take a look at where the OP came from (corvetteforum). Did you see what Ranger had to say over there? He didn't say **** because I'm pretty sure his thoughts on running spray mirror mine. If there is ANY discussion on 1/4 mile times over there, he usually gives his opinion. He didn't here. Hmmmm, wonder why?
 
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Originally Posted by amerlemans
How many 996tt or 997tt owners run spray? I've yet to see one.
There are a few out threre. Trust me.
 
Old Apr 4, 2007 | 11:30 AM
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There are a few out threre. Trust me.
Well, there is nearly ZERO discussion on here or Rennlist about it. Wonder why that is?
 
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Dude, the guy ran a nine second pass with a nearly stock car with a small shot of nitrous. That is fricking impressive.

There is not even 1 996TT in public forums that has run a 9 second pass with a built motor, worked heads, special cams, lighter parts, etc. etc. in 6+ years of the car being on the road Yet you are trying to knock this dude's acomplishment of hitting a 9 in a car that has been on the road far less than 2 years. Your ignorance is spewing through your words.

While you don't have to be in favor of nitrous, you can't knock it's abilities. Were you aware that some world war II aircrafts were nitrous injected for a boost of power?
 
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I was amazed by the nice response, until I saw this:
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He, he.....
 
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Originally Posted by dgussin1
Dude, the guy ran a nine second pass with a nearly stock car with a small shot of nitrous. That is fricking impressive.

There is not even 1 996TT in public forums that has run a 9 second pass with a built motor, worked heads, special cams, lighter parts, etc. etc. in 6+ years of the car being on the road Yet you are trying to knock this dude's acomplishment of hitting a 9 in a car that has been on the road far less than 2 years. Your ignorance is spewing through your words.

While you don't have to be in favor of nitrous, you can't knock it's abilities. Were you aware that some world war II aircrafts were nitrous injected for a boost of power?
First off -- what part of "I think the Z06 is impressive" don't you understand? My comments are not about THE CAR...its about the BOTTLE. Capiche?

How much do you think "that small shot of nitrous" helped him get into the 9's? I'll help ya out. Alot. Otherwise, he runs in the mid 10's......and like I said before that is DAMN IMPRESSIVE. There are also other slightly modded stock cars like the 997(some 996tt's included but rather highly modded) WITHOUT nitrous running mid 10's as well.

No, I'm not in favor of nitrous and even more so NOT IMPRESSED by numbers which one gains by running it.

I can tell by your car that all you are concerned about is 1/4 mile times. Do you really think the C6Z06, 997tt, 996tt were made for 1/4 mile drag racing? With the number of snapped axles and destroyed rear ends, I'd say no.

FWIW, a boost of power in a fighter jet is quite apripot (sp?) in combat. What use is it in a modern day car? Bad analogy.

I'm done with this discussion. You that want to live out The Fast and Furious, have at it.
 

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lol...my car is set up for road racing (coil overs and other handling mods), bud. I just happen to enjoy drag racing, too.
 
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For what its worth, his non spray run of 10.5 is enough to pound most modded TT's into the sand. I don't dig NOS at all. I agree its a bit gimmicky, it is hard on teh motor and it stinks to high heaven if you run a wet setup on a Vette. But..... No arguing that it is a very effective tool on the dragstrip.
 
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People...it's not NOS. It's Nitrous.

NOS is a brand, just as kleenex is a brand of tissue. It's not a kleenex, it's a tissue. It's not NOS, it's nitrous. Sound like some damn ricers!
 
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NO2 but very commonly referred to as NOS much like referring to a tissue as a kleenex.
 
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Im not much of a street racer... too much to loose and nothing to gain....
But if I was going to race someone I think it would be fair to run NOS cars against NOS cars, turbo and or SC cars against Turbo and or SC cars... NA against NA etc. This way it makes it even...
I can install it on my Evo8 and run 9s all day long... for under $1000 I can get 100 HP. but I refuse it due to my philosophy of how my car should be built.
Its very hard to compete with someone who runs NOS... For every dollar he spends I have to spend XXX time more to produce equal HP...
just my opinion nothing against NOS cars... to each his own...
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