The fact is and I happen to have a bias opinion, is that the 911 (996) Gt2 is the greatest 911 ever built period, unless the new 997 takes the crown. It is the flagship and no amount of modifications on a 996tt will make it a Gt2, period. Simply, a Gt2 is a Gt2 and a 996tt is that, a 996tt. Otherwise, I would have saved myself 30 to 40 grand and bought a tt. Believe me, we Gt2 owners are not stupid, I drove and felt the difference between the two and I didn't want to Frankenstein a 996tt to have a car that would compete. We aren't kidding ourselves, maybe you are. Yes, you can make a tt run faster than a Veyron or any other car on the planet with tens of thousands of dollars worth of modifications, but the Gt2 is a pure, pure, Porsche, and no amount of modifications or money can buy that, but that is just one man's opinion.

 

We seem to be on the same page. I don't believe any amount of modifications will actually turn a 996TT into a GT2 either. But since they aren't that far off one another in the first place, relatively little mods on the 996TT make them damn close to one another, performance wise. But since I'm not trying make car into a GT2, this really doesn't concern me. Other than twin GT2 fuel pumps, I have no other GT2 parts, or look-a-like parts, on my car.

And of course you're biased. All GT2 owners are.


Like I said, had I been able to afford a GT2 and mod it the way I wanted, I would have bought one as well. I realize it's the better starting platform.

No...when GT2 owners claim they are "totally different cars"..the they are indeed kidding themselves. A Viper to a 996TT is a totally different car. The GT2 qnd 996TT are very close to identical..save for a few small (in the big scheme of things) variations.

Heck, even the Porsche Tech Manual for the GT2 is located inside/as a part of the 996TT Tech Manual. That's because 95%+ or more of the pieces/parts between the two cars are exactly the same. The differences are so slight that it wasn't even worth it to Porsche to give the 996 GT2 it's own Tech Manual.

Well...of course, words like "pure, pure, Porsche" are only an opinion. The 996TT is "pure, pure Porsche" as well. So is the Cayman, and so is the Boxster. Anything other than hard data is subjective.

I do find it somewhat strange that when I simply point out the fact that the cars are far more similar than they are different, GT2 owners somehow take offense. The thing is; I'm not putting the GT2 down in any way whatsoever.

But yes, Mario, your opinion does matter..and I'm very glad you like your GT2. I like it too.

 

Cool, then make a lot of guys happy and come out and see it in October at MIR and run your beast.

 

I would love too, bro. But unfortunately I'll be deployed to Iraq from late August/early Spetember until March of 2008.

 

out of controlllllllllllll... but its kinda a fun threat. Too bad the original intentions got buried.

I am not sure why you would take an awd tt and convert it to rwd as everything I know suggests that it is a superior way of getting such wild power to the ground? I think there may have been previous discussions about this but I know my friend's awd Ruf Turbo R works really well and is especially suited as an "all weather fighter". If I were going to drive my GT2 [or my old 930, for that matter] in hard rain I would wish it were awd. I can relate to a wild and sideways run up Hightway 1 in pouring rain in my 930 and it was.... an exercise in very attentive driving. I doubt I would have broken a sweat in my friend's Ruf.

I DON"T think, no claim, that a GT2 is "better" than a 996tt. I DO insist it is a lot more different than many of you insist. In fact, I think a properly modded 996tt might be the superior car. For my money, I enjoy the fact that the GT2 reminds me of my 930. Period. I do also think that if someone actually sells his GT2 and buys a 996t. Yes, he will save a lot of money. YES, I think he will lose a bundle in the long run and not be happy when he sees how much his tt is worth in 5-10 years compared to a GT2. BUT that isn't why I bought my GT2 and I doubt many of you guys will be here nor own your particular cars for that lenght of time. Hell, at my age, I will be happy if I am still able to genuinely USE my turbos 10 years from now, much less still be alive. BUT I plan to keep enjoying them and I could care less what people SAY about the difference if they aren't willing to provide some resources to back up the "They are the same" claims. Buy a Subaru Legend. It's the SAME. Flat 6, awd..etc. Probably a lot more reliable also, right? If you take me serious then you are wasting a lot of time.
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JR

 

I am glad you said that. It certainly sums your questions up.
One of the things that always amuses me is when people insist in rationalising and justifying their decisions( in this thread when no one was actually asking) by reading things into comments that are not there( except in their minds).The school of thought that Porsche would have "done it that way" if it was better and 'Porsche" knows best in ALL situations is the true believers attitude that causes the vitriol out as soon as an alternative view to their own narrow view and understanding is raised.Some of the nonsense raised in this thread by a couple of posters does nothing but discredit themselves as they attacked the posters trying to answer the questions they raised!
It is no wonder that the very interesting and knowledgeable views of the industries professionals appear here sparingly and usually specifically.Freedom of speech is a great concept-- but works much better when the user actually has something to say or contribute

 

OK, We're waiting for you to actually say something or contribute, LOL

 

To drive the 930 hard I always likened it to having an arm wrestle with Mike Tyson. By way of comparison in the same situation the the 993 was like having your little finger pulled by Dame Margot Fonteyn( Ballerina for the heathens).I hate to say what the 996 TT ( especially the Tip) is like on that scale!
I am also of the school of preference for the much rawer feeling of the 996 GT2 compared with the very civilised TT.

 

I AGREE!

LOL, AWD For The Win!!!!!

 

Unless it's against a RWD car with the same power...then it's AWD for the loss.

 

I knew I'd get a response from you.