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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 07:28 PM
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The two cars you are considering are two completely different animals. YOU are the only one who can decide which you want to spend 90% of the time in, on the road. And, you are the only one who can decide which one you want to spend 10% (or less) of the time in, on the track. Everyone has an opinion and, none of them will effect how you like one or the other. Drive them both some more and make a choice. THEN worry about what, if anything, is needed for your track days.
 
Old Sep 19, 2013 | 07:44 PM
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Get em both!
 
Old Sep 19, 2013 | 08:07 PM
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That's the best suggestion I've heard all day!
 
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C2 or Cayman S probably the most fun on the track. C4S great daily driver.

If you really want the horsepower, I'd be looking for a Turbo rather than trying to power mod a Cayman or 996. The money you'll spend modifying would be (IMHO) much better spent towards a 996TT.
 

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Old Sep 20, 2013 | 02:55 AM
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So who won..? i guess is it the first or the latter.
 
Old Sep 20, 2013 | 08:40 AM
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I agree with everything but the ABS. I have flat spotted too many tires to have another track car without.
Yeah, ABS is a cheap indicator on when/where you need to improve your threshold braking and/or get more familiar with the limit of your tires. It has saved me a few times from running into the curb.

My pet peeve is when you see those EVO and GTR drivers pull off fast lap times by using all the electronic aids and then try to say they have awesome driving skills.
 
Old Sep 20, 2013 | 09:25 AM
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The same is true for the Ferrari 458 Italia. I had an opportunity to get some track time in one and I ran some laps with the electronic aids enabled, and some without. I thought I was really handling the car well until I turned them off! I got better once I got used to it, but you don't realize how much the electronics are really doing until you don't have them anymore.

This actually relates well to the 996 on the track, and in particular to the C4S. I know several people who have owned and driven the 993 and the 996 on the track. The 996 feels slower and feels like it's less engaging than the 993. However, the lap times are consistently faster in the 996.

I read an article on the new 981 Cayman (I think it was in Excellence, but I can't remember) and the author basically said that the car handles so well, and with such ease that it's actually a little bit boring!
 
Old Sep 20, 2013 | 10:42 AM
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So the Cayman I guess is the better car…
 
Old Sep 20, 2013 | 11:47 AM
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My conclusion was the C4S... but the Cayman would be great too.

How tall are you? I'm 6'4" and the 996 is very comfortable. The Cayman is a tight squeeze for me, and would be impossible wearing a helmet.
 
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Originally Posted by Dennis C
Most guys who track a car with PSM pull the fuse to deactivate it for track days.
Is this PSM the type that, even with the switch off on the panel, it will activate when certain handling parameters are reached? I'm guessing that is why the fuse is pulled rather than just switching off the system.

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That's correct. If you've got it deactivated and the ABS braking system is activated, then the PSM goes back into full active mode. Pulling the fuse prevents this, and interestingly causes the rear spoiler to deploy.
 
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Just took my stock 996 c2 for some "parade laps" during a test and tune today at CMP. I was really pleased how the car did. Granted I wasn't going 10/10ths but was pushing alittle from turn 3 till before the kink turn 9 felt great. I just can't bring myself to push hard without a roll cage and 5pt harness.

Just my 2 cents:If I were you I would buy a nice street car and save $5-10k for a track beater. Nothing better then driving a car on track isn't nice and shiny and throwing it into a corner not worrying "oh god what if I wreck and I cant afford to wad up a $30k car" ymmv.
 
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I'm 6' 6'1 tops I don't think neither cars would be tight for me
 
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Originally Posted by alpine003
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My pet peeve is when you see those EVO and GTR drivers pull off fast lap times by using all the electronic aids and then try to say they have awesome driving skills.
My pet peeve is when you see those 911 drivers pull off slow lap times by driving a slower car, then attempting to justify how much more fun they had.

OP - 987, hands down.

The new 991 has more computer aids (like rear steer and 4wd torque vectoring) than an EVO or GT-R ever thought of (or had thought of and abandoned years ago).
 
Old Sep 23, 2013 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jaspergtr
My pet peeve is when you see those 911 drivers pull off slow lap times by driving a slower car, then attempting to justify how much more fun they had.

OP - 987, hands down.

The new 991 has more computer aids (like rear steer and 4wd torque vectoring) than an EVO or GT-R ever thought of (or had thought of and abandoned years ago).
I should've referenced that to a 996 mk1 car btw.
I do agree with the 991 and they finally caught up and decided to put in some form of 4ws after all these years when I had it back in the days with a '88 Honda Prelude.
 


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