Hey guys...

I'm not liking the way my 02 C2 shifts. The throw is too long, sloppy, and I sometimes miss shifts because the gate seems vauge. I'm looking into B&M shifters and noticed that they also offer a system that goes under the car as well as the shifter itself. Can these two things be used together? What's it like?

 

Hey John,

I just had Sharky install a B&M short shift kit on my car www.sharkwerks.com and I have to say everything you described (and what I had before) went away with just the kit. The resistence is greater but much more percise shifting and much shorter throws a la S2000 like.

Based on what you said i don't think you need the "under" system, though I've never seen it.

 

My dad also just got his in...we are planning on putting it in once we decide on cf center, or alu...

 

I had GMGRacing install mine, so far its THE BEST upgrade that I have had done to my car. Like night and day!!!

 

had mine installed over a year ago. best thing I did. much more precise shifting.

 

Am I correct in assuming you are all writing of the B&M shifter, not the "under car" gizzmo?

 

Which one shift smoother, SSK or the under mount model (Both reduce travel about the same). If you look at the B&M SSK pivot point, it is slightly above the stock shifter pivot point, this is how it lessens the throw of the shift, in this case 30%. The higher (physicaly) the pivot from the stock pivot the greater percentage in reducing the shift. By moving the pivot point above the stock however, the harder it is to shift since you are shortening the leverage in shifting. The stock will shift smoother cause the travel is longer, the downside is longer travel (remember longer travel mean smoother shifting). But if you install the under body mount, it will be lesser effort to shift and not as notchy w/ an adjustable shorter throw. Lesser effort because you retain the original stock shifter pivot point (better leverage than SSK) and less notchy since your are shortening the stock throw closer to the source (at the transmision, where the under mount resides).
I currently have the B&M SSK w/ linkage, Im happy w/it but in hind sight I shoulda went with the above set up.

I would at least change the stock linkage out though since you can decrease/adjust play in the cables and its made of "indistructable" material. After awhile the stock just gets worn and tend to have lots of play, then breaks... But hey, what do I know.

Sorry about the rant... but to answer your question yes you can join the two, I personally wouldnt, cause I would easily get lost in the shift since it will be even harder to shift with even more "notch".

 

And to make this even easier, we have the B&M Short Shift unit on sale for $199 right now! Get it here!

 

good price
well worth it

 

Eric,
Is that the shifter or the thing that goes under the car?

 

John, it's the defacto standard: in-car unit.

 

I installed the in-car unit myself and the price above can not be beat so you should get it. I bought mine for $250 at Suncoast Porsche. It took about 2 hours to install using the included directions and there is no way I would ever want to go back. The shifts are more notchy, more noisy, and require more effort. But they snap in place much better and give you a more positive feel with each shift. Shifts almost feel like a flick of the wrist now.

 

John,

You definitely want to put in the B&M short shifter on the C4S I had prior to the TT. It took me a while to believe folks on the forum but when I finally did, I couldn't have been any happier. My wife now has the C4S and also absolutely loves it.

I made sure the TT I got also had one as well since I never wanted to go back to the L O N G throws. You may also want to consider the EVO billet shifter linkage

http://www.gmpperformance.com/index....ail&PID=117075

Eric is also a great person to buy from and that is a very good price. Go for it; you won't regret it.

 

Okay, Eric.... I'm ordering...
Thanks!!

 

If anyone here has played around with a 997 GT3 shifter and also has a B&M unit installed, could you compare the two? I just rode in a 997 GT3 today and the shifting was perfect. I want the same "feel" and travel throw as the GT3 has. Believe it or not, the only other car that shifts so well (personal opinion) is my BMW M Coupé.