Here's the act I was referring to:
Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975
Excerpt:
Can an automotive dealership void your warranty?


Understanding the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975.
Nearly everyone has heard about someone who has taken a vehicle that has been modified with aftermarket parts to a dealer for warranty service, only to have the dealer refuse to cover the defective items. The dealer usually states that because of the aftermarket parts the warranty is void, without even attempting to determine whether the aftermarket part caused the problem.
This is illegal. Vehicle manufacturers are not allowed to void the vehicle warranty just because aftermarket parts are on the vehicle. To better understand this problem it is best to know the differences between the two types of new car warranties and the two types of emission warranties.

More info:
http://www.impalaclub.com/naisso/magmoss.htm

 

You can't remove the evidence of a chip flash.

 

Here's another on Magnuson Moss
http://www.sema.org/main/semaorghome.aspx?ID=50096

I could also post on on Lemmon Laws too but I ask you --how much time and expense do you feel it ought to take to prove he's right and lose anyway ?

Waving Manguson Moss with a modified car and citing lemmon laws is not a one day quick fix . It will take a long time and IMO it's not worth it.

I would never have even waited 18 months nor would I have gotten to the point where his dealership and Porsche reps are debating his car .

What's your proposal ? Are you recommending the either Porsche or his dealership ought to hand him a new car? Never happen .

Do you feel that his attorneys ought to argue and tie this up for another year or two and then he will still have to buy a new car but maybe pay a little less than had he not argued ? Only to see some technician fired instead of the real issue addressed and face frowns in service every time he rolls in with his new car? Just to prove he's right?

You do realize that his dealership wants to resolve this and it was halted at the region . My feeling is that both he and that dealership can work this out .

The Porsche community is a small one . Notice the dealerships and businesses who even post here . Wherever he's from a little humility and compromise can go a long way and no --I don't think he will lose his shirt in expenses on this car if traded in now.

 

Yes you can. Just get a cloned ECU.

 

I appreciate the advice and various viewpoints. I am now in negotiation with the dealer to trade into a 2008 997TT. I feel this is the best option to get out of this car while staying in the Porsche family.

Thanks for everyone's support!

 

Even with a cloned ECU, if you have any over-revs the "evidence is stored in areas other than the ECU - see post 10 in this link
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ad.php?t=91062

 

RMS leak? Let's hope not.

I'm sorry to hear about all these problems. Hope you get a tolerable resolution.

Frankly, I'm surprised that PCNA approved any adjustment on a car modded as you have. I don't think it really contributes to your problems, but I thought Porsche would run and hide behind any such good excuse NOT to spend money to fix your car.

 

But most do not raise the rev-limiter (hopefully) and there, then would be no record of the chip if reversed. Some flash-chips, I am told, can be switched to stock extremely quick/easy for the driver.

 

Well that's a completely different issue. You can over rev from range 1-6 simply by shifting poorly. Any dealership can raise the question of abuse when the engine spends too many time in the high ranges. This has nothing to do with ECU re-programming.

If you clone an ECU, and make sure that your ECU does not elevate the stock rev limiter, and you don't over rev too often when shifting, you should be fine...and no dealership with PIWIS will know the difference.

 

As far as i know there is NO possibility to hide a modded ECU from Porsche, if they really want to know it.

Also an clone ECU won´t help, the problem is NOT the high revs, the problem is the stored mileage in the ECU. It´s not only stored in the ECU, it´s stored at some other chips in your car. If you clone your ECU there is a difference and they will see it, if they want.

I have the durametric Cable and software and it is amazing what you can read with that $200 tool, don´t wanna think about what Porsche can read out with their $$$$$$ PIWIS...

Would be happy if I´m wrong, but i don´t think so.

 

My dealer (Northland Porsche) has arranged a trade into a 2008 Turbo (same color, same options). I am selling my performance modifications and using the proceeds to buy aftermarket wheels.

I am pleased with this outcome and would like to thank Greg Joseph and Northland Porsche for their support.

 

Glad to hear things worked out for you.

 

Glad to hear that worked out for you Ron. Guess it helps that you probably bought everything in your sig from the Joseph's.

 

I think you hit the nail on the head!

 

I am very glad that it all worked out for you. Best wishes with the new car . Post pics when you get it.