How Could You Rationalize a 911 Turbo?
[quote=997ttt;1847958]Ok so many other things you could drop 150+ thousand dollars on!!!
Let's look at just two of your questions...
Why a 911 Turbo? at 150K+?
question is, what kind of impression does a 911 have? compared to say a corvette, a lambo, a ferrari?
First one, I paid less than $125K for my 911 turbo. You don't have to pay the +$150K to get the genuine 911 tt. Second, there is no comparison with a corvette....just drive a vette and a turbo 911 and that statement would even come up. The higher-quality, the performance and road ability are there, much more than the difference in price between the turbo and vette
Let's talk about the lambo and ferrari. Porsche builds a super car, than can complete with these tremendously higher priced cars. Porsche gives the performance matching or often better than these higher priced cars, plus matching quality. How they do it for only $120K amazes me. I thought earlier BMW gave you a super deal for the price, but Porsche has even more to offer for the price. This is my first Porsche turbo, I would never go back to BMW M3s, M5s or vettes, they all seem now like stepping stones to an astonishing racing sports vehicle for the money. The image is super too, but mostly only to those that appreciate the fine engineering put in Porsches.
Let's look at just two of your questions...
Why a 911 Turbo? at 150K+?
question is, what kind of impression does a 911 have? compared to say a corvette, a lambo, a ferrari?
First one, I paid less than $125K for my 911 turbo. You don't have to pay the +$150K to get the genuine 911 tt. Second, there is no comparison with a corvette....just drive a vette and a turbo 911 and that statement would even come up. The higher-quality, the performance and road ability are there, much more than the difference in price between the turbo and vette
Let's talk about the lambo and ferrari. Porsche builds a super car, than can complete with these tremendously higher priced cars. Porsche gives the performance matching or often better than these higher priced cars, plus matching quality. How they do it for only $120K amazes me. I thought earlier BMW gave you a super deal for the price, but Porsche has even more to offer for the price. This is my first Porsche turbo, I would never go back to BMW M3s, M5s or vettes, they all seem now like stepping stones to an astonishing racing sports vehicle for the money. The image is super too, but mostly only to those that appreciate the fine engineering put in Porsches.
Last edited by johnww; May 14, 2008 at 03:05 PM.
Seems like he just wanted to make a point of discussion about why people spent 150k on a sports car...out of curiosity, not judgment.
Lots of people don't make that sum in half a decade working, ie it's a large number to spend on an instantaneously depreciating asset...is it so much to ask what reasons people had to do so in a colloquial sense?
I don't think he was asking why you didn't donate 130k of it to DARFUR and drive a Civic and attacked your choices.
What is the deal around here of jumping down people's throats for so little? As soon as anyone says something even remotely ambivalent about Porsche, all hell breaks loose.
I for one don't have that kind of money yet, but I assure you, I am one of the silly people that would gladly drop over 100k on a car...whether it is for the prestige, history, personal interest, boyish love affair...all good reasons IMO.
Lots of people don't make that sum in half a decade working, ie it's a large number to spend on an instantaneously depreciating asset...is it so much to ask what reasons people had to do so in a colloquial sense?
I don't think he was asking why you didn't donate 130k of it to DARFUR and drive a Civic and attacked your choices.
What is the deal around here of jumping down people's throats for so little? As soon as anyone says something even remotely ambivalent about Porsche, all hell breaks loose.
I for one don't have that kind of money yet, but I assure you, I am one of the silly people that would gladly drop over 100k on a car...whether it is for the prestige, history, personal interest, boyish love affair...all good reasons IMO.
Last edited by stradaONE8; May 14, 2008 at 02:49 PM.
so true...
I like the fact that people do not realize that the car is >150k.
And, yes I did work hard to get to the point where I am able to afford a car like this.
I just needed some reassurance.
Call it Forum Therapy for the unsure 911 turbo owners.
The car is absolute heaven. Feels great every morning I start it up and drive to work. I have many cars, but I choose to drive this one rain or shine. I have 400 miles on the car and I just received the car on 5-5-08.
I still have my 997s coupe Arctic/Black. Sports Exhaust - really miss this. Sounds better than my stock TT exhaust. I also like the fact that I can turn it off (synchronized with sports mode).
What I would really like to do is tour the country like Atomic80!!
Also, tracking the car would be great.
I like the fact that people do not realize that the car is >150k.
And, yes I did work hard to get to the point where I am able to afford a car like this.
I just needed some reassurance.
Call it Forum Therapy for the unsure 911 turbo owners.
The car is absolute heaven. Feels great every morning I start it up and drive to work. I have many cars, but I choose to drive this one rain or shine. I have 400 miles on the car and I just received the car on 5-5-08.
I still have my 997s coupe Arctic/Black. Sports Exhaust - really miss this. Sounds better than my stock TT exhaust. I also like the fact that I can turn it off (synchronized with sports mode).
What I would really like to do is tour the country like Atomic80!!
Also, tracking the car would be great.
Dear Strada,
Interesting point that has always vexed me (not sure if vexed is a real word).
But, I have always had a hard time balancing living for the day with planning for the future. You hear this all the time. Got to have a "balance". Still not sure what this is suppose to mean. I have enough money to buy an F430 even after the 911 TTCab. I am considering this. And of course, what 40 year old would not want a F430. But, just because I can afford it, should I do it? Sucks... Every day is different. I bought the 997TT Cab on a last minute decision. Now, I want a second car (F430). It's addictive.
Interesting point that has always vexed me (not sure if vexed is a real word).
But, I have always had a hard time balancing living for the day with planning for the future. You hear this all the time. Got to have a "balance". Still not sure what this is suppose to mean. I have enough money to buy an F430 even after the 911 TTCab. I am considering this. And of course, what 40 year old would not want a F430. But, just because I can afford it, should I do it? Sucks... Every day is different. I bought the 997TT Cab on a last minute decision. Now, I want a second car (F430). It's addictive.
^ I know exactly what you mean in terms of balance. It is a lesson I have learned from a lot of people I respect greatly. I tend to teeter a bit on the living for the day side of that balance when it comes to cars...I cant help it.
I would argue for my age, I am definitely living more than planning, like I should be, but I hopefully have a career that will allow me to be a bit silly and enjoy life more than some people my age now, but still a lot less than some others who have made it to P-car and etc territory already. Upper-middle stupidity if you will...
I also choose to reward myself in the realm of cars, as I spend a lot less on education than some of my peers whether it is through scholarships or work.
I definitely spend money like an idiot sometimes on cars and some areas of my true interest, but I save everywhere else to allow for that.
Ultimately its always a personal preference, maturity, and upbringing in the matters of money.
As an example:
My mentor is a CEO of one of the hospitals here, a high ranking member in many national organizations and an overall giant in the medical world (I can disclose more if people are genuinely interested, but who isn't the point) the point is he makes a bundle of money and has been doing so for some time.
The car he drives is a Lincoln LS, no 100k+ Porsche or 200k Ferrari, and it's not like he cant afford it or a fleet of them.
I once asked him why he never bought himself something nice, especially this January when he became CEO. And he asked me what I thought being a leader was, I replied with something obviously not in line to what was going to make the point of.
He said, leadership is about selflessness. His perspective is that although he makes that money, he still has to work with his lab, his colleagues, the students, and everyone around him that looks up to him or works with him and maybe a flashy 100k+ car would project the wrong image and distance him from those people he depends on as they depend on him.
Mind you he's saying this to me, a blown car nut who would like a Ferrari more than anything on the planet. But this gave me more perspective on the issue.
I can't say that it swayed me from wanting a Ferrari in the future , and shortly after he said his spiel about leadership, I retorted, "You could just buy it for the weekend..." He smiled an admitted that he'd love to see a Maserati in the garage...we both took a little away from the discussion I think, I implanted a splinter in his mind to reward himself, and he got me to rethink about always "wanting."
Now in that context, the former CEO of the hospital is a blown Porsche nut and drove his bright red 993 Turbo to work everyday of the year almost and parked right out in the small lot next to the cancer research buildings...I can't say if everyone didn't love to see that car, I sure as hell did.
Point is, to each his own, but like 997ttt is saying, balance is key among all things...where you peg it, is just up to you. Whether 150k for a TT, or 450k for a CGT, you clearly earned it, and while some people may not agree with spending a small countries GDP for a car, I'm not blaming you...
And holy ramble on post Batman!
I would argue for my age, I am definitely living more than planning, like I should be, but I hopefully have a career that will allow me to be a bit silly and enjoy life more than some people my age now, but still a lot less than some others who have made it to P-car and etc territory already. Upper-middle stupidity if you will...
I also choose to reward myself in the realm of cars, as I spend a lot less on education than some of my peers whether it is through scholarships or work.
I definitely spend money like an idiot sometimes on cars and some areas of my true interest, but I save everywhere else to allow for that.
Ultimately its always a personal preference, maturity, and upbringing in the matters of money.
As an example:
My mentor is a CEO of one of the hospitals here, a high ranking member in many national organizations and an overall giant in the medical world (I can disclose more if people are genuinely interested, but who isn't the point) the point is he makes a bundle of money and has been doing so for some time.
The car he drives is a Lincoln LS, no 100k+ Porsche or 200k Ferrari, and it's not like he cant afford it or a fleet of them.
I once asked him why he never bought himself something nice, especially this January when he became CEO. And he asked me what I thought being a leader was, I replied with something obviously not in line to what was going to make the point of.
He said, leadership is about selflessness. His perspective is that although he makes that money, he still has to work with his lab, his colleagues, the students, and everyone around him that looks up to him or works with him and maybe a flashy 100k+ car would project the wrong image and distance him from those people he depends on as they depend on him.
Mind you he's saying this to me, a blown car nut who would like a Ferrari more than anything on the planet. But this gave me more perspective on the issue.
I can't say that it swayed me from wanting a Ferrari in the future , and shortly after he said his spiel about leadership, I retorted, "You could just buy it for the weekend..." He smiled an admitted that he'd love to see a Maserati in the garage...we both took a little away from the discussion I think, I implanted a splinter in his mind to reward himself, and he got me to rethink about always "wanting."
Now in that context, the former CEO of the hospital is a blown Porsche nut and drove his bright red 993 Turbo to work everyday of the year almost and parked right out in the small lot next to the cancer research buildings...I can't say if everyone didn't love to see that car, I sure as hell did.
Point is, to each his own, but like 997ttt is saying, balance is key among all things...where you peg it, is just up to you. Whether 150k for a TT, or 450k for a CGT, you clearly earned it, and while some people may not agree with spending a small countries GDP for a car, I'm not blaming you...
And holy ramble on post Batman!
Last edited by stradaONE8; May 14, 2008 at 05:52 PM.
so true...
I like the fact that people do not realize that the car is >150k.
And, yes I did work hard to get to the point where I am able to afford a car like this.
I just needed some reassurance.
Call it Forum Therapy for the unsure 911 turbo owners.
The car is absolute heaven. Feels great every morning I start it up and drive to work. I have many cars, but I choose to drive this one rain or shine. I have 400 miles on the car and I just received the car on 5-5-08.
I still have my 997s coupe Arctic/Black. Sports Exhaust - really miss this. Sounds better than my stock TT exhaust. I also like the fact that I can turn it off (synchronized with sports mode).
What I would really like to do is tour the country like Atomic80!!
Also, tracking the car would be great.
I like the fact that people do not realize that the car is >150k.
And, yes I did work hard to get to the point where I am able to afford a car like this.
I just needed some reassurance.
Call it Forum Therapy for the unsure 911 turbo owners.
The car is absolute heaven. Feels great every morning I start it up and drive to work. I have many cars, but I choose to drive this one rain or shine. I have 400 miles on the car and I just received the car on 5-5-08.
I still have my 997s coupe Arctic/Black. Sports Exhaust - really miss this. Sounds better than my stock TT exhaust. I also like the fact that I can turn it off (synchronized with sports mode).
What I would really like to do is tour the country like Atomic80!!
Also, tracking the car would be great.
Post pics. We love pics.


Wow! If you are defining yourself with a car I feel sorry for you. If you "really" care what ANYONE thinks that is sad also. Where I came from and what I have done to get where I am defines me. My Rolex and My TT (hopefully in JUNE now) and other things are mostly symbols of excellence. As for leadership, the people that work for a true leader should expect him or her to drive a magnificent car, and be happy for them not begrudge them. Now I am rambling this thread is getting to theoretical. There is some BS flying now. Hard work should always be rewarded. As for practical, if you live in a trailer park and drive a 150k car that is impractical, but I have seen a few vettes sitting outside a few trailers.
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I think it's a fair question. Driving enjoyment is not entirely logical so if one tries to "rationalize" the car purchase he might agree with you . After all "practical" cars can take a person from point A to point B . If my car purchase was based entirely on that principle I would not buy the car . I would not buy a SUV or truck either as they would also not be practical for me.
BUT -- I bought a 997tt because I view the Porsche 911 model line as a significant piece of automotive history . Through decades of production and praise and criticism and with each phase of evolution the car has remained a benchmark .
Even Porsche will admit that these cars "weren't created to be something for everyone but everything for someone " (explained in this video of an earlier 993 car at 2:45 to 2:55). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDhF__PI2vA
BUT -- I bought a 997tt because I view the Porsche 911 model line as a significant piece of automotive history . Through decades of production and praise and criticism and with each phase of evolution the car has remained a benchmark .
Even Porsche will admit that these cars "weren't created to be something for everyone but everything for someone " (explained in this video of an earlier 993 car at 2:45 to 2:55). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDhF__PI2vA





