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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 06:55 AM
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give it to me, i don't mind !
 
Old Sep 24, 2008 | 07:19 AM
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I agree with the other post...if the 997TT is dull, its definitely ferrari or lambo time....I cant imagine a Murci would ever get "dull" And if it does, well I would probably have to leave the car hobby behind!
 
Old Sep 24, 2008 | 07:19 AM
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give it to me, i don't mind !
Well id be happy to take it off your hands
 
Old Sep 24, 2008 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Val
I think a lot of people buy TT and expect a sportscar, while in reality its a daily driver.
My 2 cents:

I think it is a sportscar - because it is.

I also think it's a daily driver - because it is.

I think many people think it's a track star...it used to be, but has evolved into a all around everyday usable supercar.
 
Old Sep 24, 2008 | 08:21 AM
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I felt same way. Then I called GMG and had the suspension sorted. Now I love it. Out of the box the car is too compromised. If you do some suspension mods, springs, sways, spacers, dog bones, etc, along with the mods you already have the car will feel great.
 
Old Sep 24, 2008 | 09:33 AM
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I ve had a bunch of sports cars in my life.

3 p cars

my 997 TT is the best car I ve ever owned.

so happy I bought it...

originally ordered a C2S Cab and decided what the heck,, get the turbo.


great decision..


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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 01:42 PM
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I agree, regular 997 turbo is just a car, nothing special.
Modified 997 turbo (turbines,exhaust,ecu,suspension and some other things) is a different world and it's far from regular one.
 
Old Sep 24, 2008 | 08:34 PM
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I was in a similar situation, although I don't know if we are disappointed by the same thing. If you look at the spring rates below, you will recognize that the Turbo suspension is set up for comfort. The car squats, dives, leans way too much (for me, YMMV, etc.) in its stock form and the steering feel is lacking. Most irritating is the tendency for the car to squat with acceleration.

In that sense, IMHO adding power before stiffening up the suspension is not a good idea. The very wimpy stock springs must be the first thing to go.

I was ready to trade my car in for a GT3 (reluctantly because of lack of torque and the number of RMS problems). Fortunately, I installed the Bilstein and now plan to keep this car for life . I posted a lot of info here: http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php...&page=0#449462

Please listen to the many reputable vendors on this site and get that Bilstein on your car ASAP. If one is to have fun with this car or to evaluate its track potential, the stock springs MUST go.

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Some numbers I gathered during my fact finding mission. When comparing spring rates, note that GT3/GT2 is around 300 lbs lighter than Turbo. Anyone please correct me if my numbers are wrong.

Bilstein PSS10 Damptronic for 997 Turbo
Front 285 Main, 115 Tender
Rear 570 Main, 145 Tender
More or less effective 285/570; the tender/helper springs are fully compressed when installed.

Stock 996 TT:
Front: 187 Progressive
Rear: 340 Progressive

Stock 997 TT: No numbers available, but probably similar to 996 TT numbers above.
Front: Progressive
Rear: Progressive

Stock 997 GT2
Front: Linear
Rear: Progressive

Stock 996 GT3:
Front: 225 Linear
Rear: 550 Progressive

Stock 997 GT3:
Front: 257
Rear: 600

Originally Posted by 2K7997TT
It's a great car. There aren't many things wrong with it.

I added GIAC,exhaust, and headers. It made it greater.

I have just never really fallen in love with it.

You ever had a really hot girlfriend that you didn't want to marry.

That's how I feel.
 
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I would give Lamborghini Gallardo or Ferrari F430 a try. On paper they may be similar to 997TT in terms of performance, but the feel is totally different. There is nothing like an Italian exotic and once you drive it, you wouldn't want to drive anything else
 
Old Sep 25, 2008 | 12:23 AM
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Before owning a 996TT - i was very interested in forced induction of the turbos - i have experienced s/c with my E55 but i was curious of this turbo boost and lag

Also the AWD peaked my interest and those were 2 of my main reasons for going with the TT

Well, needless to say, wasn't my thing

I now prefer an NA engine, with a huge redline - my e46 M3 brought me to love these engines, and it wasn't until expereincing a 996TT, that i truly realized how much that was true...

Now with a 3.6L V8, screaming all the way to 8500 RPM's... i'm set
 
Old Sep 25, 2008 | 09:13 AM
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Just an alternate view point. I recently drove a F430. Beautiful in & out, wonderful sound, great NA engine response, beautiful chassis feedback (in this aspect not better than modified Porsche), but the torque is missing in action. I used to think a Ferrari is a must have; that's no longer the case.

As for Lambo Gallardo, LOVE that car, more than Ferrari, but it somehow feels heavy, and chassis feedback is not the same as Ferrari or modded Turbo.

Also remember the purpose of the car; Lambo and Ferrari are NOT good daily drivers and unlikely to be as reliable, and very likely to be a lot more costly to maintain. For weekend yes, I would pick Lambo V10 and orgasmic howl over Ferrari. Or I would pick a modded Turbo, ANY DAY. Just my opinions and YMMV.
 
Old Sep 25, 2008 | 10:32 AM
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i wanted to get rid of mine after the first week... only kept it a month i guess maybe 45 days... soft, dull, numb feeling car...
 
Old Sep 25, 2008 | 10:41 AM
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Good point

Originally Posted by yrralis1
Sometimes one purchases a car with a set of expectations and with time novelty erodes . The thrill of attaining the car is part of the process but at some point ( and for various reasons ) a car's thrill might subside leading to selling it .

Do I feel this way aboit my Turbo ? Nope .
Do I understand that you might ? Yep .

Only you can determine if its time to sell the car and move on .
You raise the tip of a good point. It's a good idea to mod your car but in the end it's your perception of your car that counts. Endless mods won't do it for you but rethinking your car and the experience of driving it can work wonders (e.g. see the comment about the person with the 993 who likes to listen to the sound a German car). I was into mods and more mods may be coming (no rush - still on warranty) and still have some in mind but I started to pay more close attention to the sound, the feel, etc. and really started to re-enjoy what I"m actually driving not what it might be driving. Now I'm happy even to drive to work in my 997TT and don't have to be on the track to get that big grin.
That said, it has taken awhile to grow into my TT but I'm kind of back to where I used to be enjoying be so lucky as to own and drive one everyday (almost).
Cheers,
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 01:52 PM
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My Evo was more fun to drive than my Turbo. Wish I had held out for a GT3. Im giving it time to grow on me though...that and mods. But no, Im not in love with it. At 9/10's she comes alive but outside of that shes, dare I say, boring on the street*

*which I was well informed before purchasing, just took a gamble.
 
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get a GT3/ GT3RS... problem solved.
 


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