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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 05:36 PM
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Do an even swap if you can - he will probably go for it.

I wouldn't keep the mods you have on the car, there are better aftermarket items available for the new 09 car.
 
Old Dec 29, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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Deal !! Here's the compromise

1) I like coupe over cab .
2) A cab with 13K miles and problems make this change even easier .
3) The 5K - Now that's the issue -- Here's the compromse -tell then you want a nice set of aftermarket wheels and call it a deal !!!
 
Old Dec 29, 2008 | 07:57 PM
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i would do the deal. as someone intimated, a 160k turbo coupe is way overstocked with options that give you nothing back at trade in time. sure you are losing the 30 grand, but you lost at least 20 of that when you took possesion of this overloaded turbo (in my opinion). pccb brakes are , in my opinion, a waste. you are seeing it now-8 grand for brakes on a car that already has the best brakes in the business is ridiculous-yeah, i know that a million peope will now swear that i don't know what i am talking about, that pccbs are the second coming-yah yeah yeah. on the other hand, a 135k is a well equipt coupe, one that probably has xm, blue tooth, universal adapter, heated seats-that is a car that has all the necesary options, that will do the best it can to hold it's value. it has the new touchscreen. i would take the deal, or something close to it, to get rid of this overoptioned cab that you are not enjoying and get yourself into this leaner but more appropriately equipt coupe-i would do it in a heart beat.
 
Old Dec 29, 2008 | 08:11 PM
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Do the deal. It sounds fair.
 
Old Dec 29, 2008 | 08:31 PM
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I am not a cab fan, but I have an 8 month old TT Coupe with pccb's. I can tell you that the forum buddies gave me break in suggestions for the brakes and mine have never squeeked and that is one of my favorite options. I $158k for my coupe (with tax), and could not be happier. I have no squeeks or rattles of any kind. It is a great car and I hope you will be just as happy as I have been. I would not change one thing. Good luck and be sure to post pics if you make the trade.
 
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Push for the even swap!! You never know how desperate he is.
 
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$130 for your trade is a good deal. I was at my dealership in texas, and they have an 08 turbo cab for sale for $118.

Also, Greta, what break in suggestions did you use for your brakes? I just brought home a new one with pccb's yesterday- nevermind, i just found your old thread....search is actually an effective tool!
 

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I hope you found the pccb break in instructions. I did it right away (I believe I followed the instructions that Larry (aka humm3) gave me). I do try to do hard fast stops occassionally too (make sure nobody is behind you of course) as I was told this helps keep the dust, etc. out of the brakes. They stop you on a dime - 60 to 0 in 4.5 seconds!
 
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i would do the deal. as someone intimated, a 160k turbo coupe is way overstocked with options that give you nothing back at trade in time. sure you are losing the 30 grand, but you lost at least 20 of that when you took possesion of this overloaded turbo (in my opinion). pccb brakes are , in my opinion, a waste. you are seeing it now-8 grand for brakes on a car that already has the best brakes in the business is ridiculous-yeah, i know that a million peope will now swear that i don't know what i am talking about, that pccbs are the second coming-yah yeah yeah. on the other hand, a 135k is a well equipt coupe, one that probably has xm, blue tooth, universal adapter, heated seats-that is a car that has all the necesary options, that will do the best it can to hold it's value. it has the new touchscreen. i would take the deal, or something close to it, to get rid of this overoptioned cab that you are not enjoying and get yourself into this leaner but more appropriately equipt coupe-i would do it in a heart beat.
Cab production is just silly high and unless you live in a warm region you will be dinged on resale no matter what the market looks like. High miles no matter what make, or model will depreciate your car. It will also tell buyers your car was driven hard whether its true or not is irrelavent. Perception is everything.

So we have a 170k + car being traded in for a 135K car with 5K being added to the deal. Both cars will continue to depreciate like rocks. The only way to avoid it is to drive it for several years. TOP is very unhappy with his current car, and something tells me he will be equally unhappy with his new one. Porsches make noise, and some are pleasant and some aren't.

This is far from a deal. I can walk in and buy the 135K car for 7-9K less then the asking price. If I stick to my guns I will get more as these cars are just growing cob webs on lots. I could also buy any high mileage cab out there for just about any price I offer with in reason.

The best deal here is no deal, if I was TOP accountant I would tell him to get off the internet and go enjoy his car

Its just not the time to make a move like this unless of course money is not an issue and if that were the case why ask the question in the first place.

As for your PCCB statement, sounds like sour grapes to me. Its a crime every time I see a Turbo without them. I have asked many why they bought a car without them, the answer was almost all of them bought used cars. The others were men in their 60's and 70's and going fast is 10 over the posted limit. Every time I go to the track just about every Pcar has them and most are not Turbo's. Once you own a car with them your wish is that every OEM offered them. They are that good! If you order a Turbo and need to save 8K, well sir there is a nice 911 Cayman I can show you
 
Old Dec 31, 2008 | 01:25 PM
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Cab production is just silly high and unless you live in a warm region you will be dinged on resale no matter what the market looks like. High miles no matter what make, or model will depreciate your car. It will also tell buyers your car was driven hard whether its true or not is irrelavent. Perception is everything.

So we have a 170k + car being traded in for a 135K car with 5K being added to the deal. Both cars will continue to depreciate like rocks. The only way to avoid it is to drive it for several years. TOP is very unhappy with his current car, and something tells me he will be equally unhappy with his new one. Porsches make noise, and some are pleasant and some aren't.

This is far from a deal. I can walk in and buy the 135K car for 7-9K less then the asking price. If I stick to my guns I will get more as these cars are just growing cob webs on lots. I could also buy any high mileage cab out there for just about any price I offer with in reason.

The best deal here is no deal, if I was TOP accountant I would tell him to get off the internet and go enjoy his car

Its just not the time to make a move like this unless of course money is not an issue and if that were the case why ask the question in the first place.

As for your PCCB statement, sounds like sour grapes to me. Its a crime every time I see a Turbo without them. I have asked many why they bought a car without them, the answer was almost all of them bought used cars. The others were men in their 60's and 70's and going fast is 10 over the posted limit. Every time I go to the track just about every Pcar has them and most are not Turbo's. Once you own a car with them your wish is that every OEM offered them. They are that good! If you order a Turbo and need to save 8K, well sir there is a nice 911 Cayman I can show you
Some of your advice might have validity, but it is always given in the spirit of degradation and belittlement-i always note that from watching you posts that even though you are capable of giving some advice, you need to attack someone in order to complete a post. My advice-confine your comments to helping the poster or adding to the body of knowledge-when you find the need to attack someone, attempt to supress it. I know that making pithy comments behind the annonimity of your board name gives you satisfaction, but I think your contribution will be more significant ifyou restrain yourself. By the way-you are telling the poster that his cars are going to depreciate aggressively-if that is your concern, I find it strange that you own an 09 turbo and those 2 audis-although beautiful cars, some major depreciarors in their own right. Now remember-be nice!!!
 
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DEAL. i would take it and run. see if you can get him to trade even up with you or even split the difference. Just use the angle of they should step up and try to keep their customer happy if they want to do future business. i don't think they would lose your long term business for another $2500. and definitely put the stock parts back on it.
 
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DEAL. i would take it and run. see if you can get him to trade even up with you or even split the difference. Just use the angle of they should step up and try to keep their customer happy if they want to do future business. i don't think they would lose your long term business for another $2500. and definitely put the stock parts back on it.
my friend-you have real good taste in cars, and obviously a good job. what is your read on the gt-r vs the turbo?
 
Old Dec 31, 2008 | 11:49 PM
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my friend-you have real good taste in cars, and obviously a good job. what is your read on the gt-r vs the turbo?
unfortunately i will be taking delivery of my GTR in 2009. So i have no opinions at this point based upon actual experience. But the way i look at it, for $70K, how can you lose? i just saw one on the street about a week ago and it definitely looked impressive on the road.
 
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I'd push him for the same deal, mod swap, and a pdk car on the boat....

just me. At least the mod swap. Perhaps some built in oil/service too.....
 
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A big hit like that is normal. The mods will return you nothing. Let the dealer sit on the car, they are not moving. Remember, Porsche sut down production last month, and not just for the German holidays. The economy is stalling sales. Cars are sitting. The Porsche product however, is superior and I am surprised to here your issues. My car is awesome the only issues were with the dealer. Make your best deal and dont rush.
 


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