I am someone who likes the TIP and would want the PDK (just personal preference, not saying either is better over manual). But just to play devils advocate there may be many TT owners purchasing the car w/ a manual transmission who won't see the benefits of this new technology but still incur the same spread out R&D costs associated with it.

I will be curious to see how much this version of the PDK can handle under mods. I would think there would be more concern about PDK failing under heavy mods than the new engine.

 

Yea, they actually turned them into a more user friendly, driveable car with real reliability and an interior that does not look like some cheap a$$ kit car! Terrible!!!
Porsche's have been this way for a long time. Not a whole lot to make over. As someone else posted earlier, I also believe that 90% of the prospective buyers don't know or care about the difference between a "true" dry sump engine or even know where the hell the oil goes once it leaves the funnel! As hard as it is for some to realize, we represent a small % of actual buyers here on this "enthusiast" forum and a good % of us only know about the virtues/strengths of the GT1 block style, wet/dry sumps etc....from reading others postings and then jumping on the wagon.

 

You are entitled to your opinion. I like history and I see none with VW's ownership of Lambo and the new cars. You can see it in Audi, and you will see it in Porsche.
How many Turbo's are produced each year?
If you 90% number is true, then why are there so many modded Turbo's?
Why are there so many aftermarket parts available?
Why are there so many tuners?

 

After 9 pages not too much substantive information about the new engine. The oiling system on A91 is not the same as it's predecessor having been extensively modified, nor does it have an IMS. It is less costly to build in part because it has fewer parts. Porsche did not recommend Cups or slicks for the old M96 because oil starvation at high lateral g's was known to the engineers. What is the status for A91 w/ regard to Cups/slicks, which would be a clue to Porsche's confidence in the new oiling system? In terms of rigorous track use and long term durability the jury still out on the new engine. If Ruf has serious concerns about the new block he should also have even greater concerns about his business which will be modding old Porsches from here on out. Like the new engine, the jury is out on the effect of VW on Porsche. Lamborghini is not a good model to compare w/ Porsche for reasons that could fill a book. Piech could easily adopt a very different attitude toward Porsche now that he is in the driver's seat. In fact it may be Audi that ends up on the back burner. Only time will tell.

 

well stated! i totally agree! just hoping GT3, RS, GT2 do not suffer the same fate. nxt gen Turbo will have an evolution of 9A1 engine. there is NO WAY they are going back once they change. a "true" dry sump system will be no more on the turbo i am left to wonder why Ferrari did not go with "integrated dry sump" in the 458 "italia"? even lp560-4 passed on the "integrated dry sump", and VW runs them?

 

It's supposed to be 10kgs lighter according to rennteam. I'll still pass.
Now there is absolutely nothing special about a turbo over, say a c4s, just a little more hp. Same engine at the core, same tranny.

 

Nothing left to say that hasn't been said.
I think the addition of PDK, DFI, and even the slight 20hp increase will still be enough of a performance boost vs. the competitors.
I agree about the A91/GT1 engine but time will tell.

I assume most of the consumers won't really know/care for the difference anyway.

 

you are probably right.

 

+1 :d

 

the word tranny does not go well sometimes , but i have to agree with you. I traded UP my 08 911 C4S for the TT.

 

to me it makes the 08 and 09 cars more of a steal as prices continue to depreciate...still lookin...