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cgng30 06-14-2010 11:40 PM

truth about synthetic oil
 
I was thinking of changing my oil from mobil 1 0w-40 to 5w-40 as i dont drive in the winter, and as i was doing some research on various brands , i came across this. Below is the excerpt from different forums , what do you guys think. i think i am going to go with motul 8100 5w-40?

"
motul x-cess 8100 5w40, its a true synthetic oil with ester based group V basestocks.

castrol german 0w30 is a real synthetic, group IV PAO stocks

most "synthetics" arent synthetic at all. research what you use and you'll find out that 99% of synthetic oil really isnt synthetic, just processed group III oils like mobil 1 synthetic and castro syntec " and they are allowed to call them synthetic as they are highly refined by the court"

ruf_turbo 06-14-2010 11:53 PM

Ultimately it may not make a lot of difference, but I personally will only use what Porsche has recommended.

Having said that I have used Mobil 1 for all my vehicles (Mercedes - recommended and Nissan's - not preferred) for about 15 yrs.

djantlive 06-15-2010 12:23 AM

so what is true synthetic? is it something that is chemically produced?

i predict the next trend in oil is ORGANIC... :D

TTdude 06-15-2010 01:59 AM

I agree with ruf_turbo. What makes you think that Mobil 1 0W-40 is not 100% PAO stock? Just because you don't drive during the winter doesn't mean you don't get the protection of 0W-40 or that it is less protective than 5W-40. The lighter viscosity means that it is more readily distributed upon cold start-up, regardless of temperature. There also may be a concern mixing PAO stock with ester stock but that is debatable.

yalmutawa 06-15-2010 02:37 AM

my advice is stick to the doctor's description ;)
TTDude u disagree i totally agree ;)

k_ddsl 06-15-2010 08:05 AM

I think that at some point we have to stop second guessing Porsche. :)
Believe it or not, they do spend time researching stuff like what oil is best suited for their engines. ;)

landjet 06-15-2010 08:13 AM

When I first sent in an oil sample to Blackstone Labs for testing I talked to one of their chemists. He told me they don't see much if any difference between any of the various type oils. When I asked him what he used in his car he told me the cheapest stuff he could find.

k_ddsl 06-15-2010 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by landjet (Post 2875484)
When I first sent in an oil sample to Blackstone Labs for testing I talked to one of their chemists. He told me they don't see much if any difference between any of the various type oils. When I asked him what he used in his car he told me the cheapest stuff he could find.

Larry,
Are you following that chemist's advice yourself?

cgng30 06-15-2010 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by ruf_turbo (Post 2875314)
Ultimately it may not make a lot of difference, but I personally will only use what Porsche has recommended.

Having said that I have used Mobil 1 for all my vehicles (Mercedes - recommended and Nissan's - not preferred) for about 15 yrs.

Please dont get me wrong , i have been using mobil 1 for 15 years as well, i saw the statement and was surprised , thats all

cgng30 06-15-2010 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by TTdude (Post 2875355)
I agree with ruf_turbo. What makes you think that Mobil 1 0W-40 is not 100% PAO stock? Just because you don't drive during the winter doesn't mean you don't get the protection of 0W-40 or that it is less protective than 5W-40. The lighter viscosity means that it is more readily distributed upon cold start-up, regardless of temperature. There also may be a concern mixing PAO stock with ester stock but that is debatable.

i was just posting to see the feed back, i didnt say mobil 1 was bad or anything , i just wanted to see what you guys thought of this, is it worth it switch to motul 5w-40

cgng30 06-15-2010 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by yalmutawa (Post 2875363)
my advice is stick to the doctor's description ;)
TTDude u disagree i totally agree ;)

the doctor said i could use motul 8100 or mobil 1, lol the motul 8100 is approved oil by porsche as well

robertp 06-15-2010 09:13 AM

As I posted in other threads about oils, changing the oil more frequently is the key to keeping these cars running STRONG. I drive 2000 miles a year and change the oil twice. When I drain the oil it looks worn, not like 1000 miles of driving a Toyota or Honda.

I use Mobil 1 - 0W40, 5W30, 5W40, or 10W40. Makes no difference because I live in So Cal (close to the beach) where the temps range from 50 to 75 -90% of the time.

cgng30 06-15-2010 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by robertp (Post 2875550)
As I posted in other threads about oils, changing the oil more frequently is the key to keeping these cars running STRONG. I drive 2000 miles a year and change the oil twice. When I drain the oil it looks worn, not like 1000 miles of driving a Toyota or Honda.

I use Mobil 1 - 0W40, 5W30, 5W40, or 10W40. Makes no difference because I live in So Cal (close to the beach) where the temps range from 50 to 75 -90% of the time.

yes i agree, i couldnt find mobil1 5w-40 any where around here, where can i get mobil 1 5w-40

ruf_turbo 06-15-2010 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by landjet (Post 2875484)
When I first sent in an oil sample to Blackstone Labs for testing I talked to one of their chemists. He told me they don't see much if any difference between any of the various type oils. When I asked him what he used in his car he told me the cheapest stuff he could find.

I would use the cheapest too if I drove a Toyota. :p

landjet 06-15-2010 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by k_ddsl (Post 2875493)
Larry,
Are you following that chemist's advice yourself?

No, I use 5W50 Mobil 1.

You can buy 5W50 Mobil 1 here:


Mobil 1 5w50 Case of 6 quarts


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