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Old Oct 30, 2012 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by xbox_fan
it is not that easy, it is how strong the spine are, and it need to develop further.

Sweden has recommendations for parents (based on science) and it is being updated continuously. They acctually change the recommendations from 4 to 5y for traveling backwards. The fact that it get's uncomfortable with the legs are deemed unimportant compared to safety in case of an accident.

But the Op had a 3y so there isnt any question however the child should be turned around in the car.
A well intended suggestion from you i'm sure, but really outside the scope of the application we are talking about. Simply put, a rear-facing seat for anything but an infant in our vehicles will not work.

I'm sure the Swedish scientists are decent at what they do, but I can point you to current studies that provide evidence that children are 30-40% more likely to survive a car accident when they are in the back seat as opposed to the front seat-- So as a parent of a larger 3yo --(who wants to keep his legs intact) in the back seat he goes in his forward facing seat. It's not a matter of comfort, it's a matter of what actually works.


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Old Oct 30, 2012 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by xbox_fan
it is not that easy, it is how strong the spine are, and it need to develop further.

Sweden has recommendations for parents (based on science) and it is being updated continuously. They acctually change the recommendations from 4 to 5y for traveling backwards. The fact that it get's uncomfortable with the legs are deemed unimportant compared to safety in case of an accident.

But the Op had a 3y so there isnt any question however the child should be turned around in the car.
Well in the U.S. the recommendations from the American Academy of Pediatrics (also based on science) is the following:

"The AAP advises parents to keep their toddlers in rear-facing car seats until age 2, or until they reach the maximum height and weight for their seat."

They went on to say...“The ‘age 2’ recommendation is not a deadline, but rather a guideline to help parents decide when to make the transition,” Dr. Durbin said. “Smaller children will benefit from remaining rear-facing longer, while other children may reach the maximum height or weight before 2 years of age.”

So at least here in the US, it is more based on height/weight
 
Old Oct 31, 2012 | 03:13 AM
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Hello Guys,

i`ve been searching for a while until I found a seat which is just right!

Kiddy Guardian Pro is perfect for the rear seats. My daughter loves it. It has the same design like the Porsche seat. I guess it should be the other way around: Porsche adopted the design. And, it`s half of the price.

Kiddy is a german built seat, which wins all crash tests year by year, so the safest you can buy.

Here a picture:

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Graco comfortsport will fit exactly perfect rear facing in the back seat. I did remove the seats when I switched to front facing to make a bit more room.
 
Old Nov 15, 2012 | 10:06 AM
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Graco comfortsport will fit exactly perfect rear facing in the back seat. I did remove the seats when I switched to front facing to make a bit more room.
Any pics? My little girl would live to ride in my car and my wife has been hounding me to find a solution.
 
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Graco comfortsport will fit exactly perfect rear facing in the back seat. I did remove the seats when I switched to front facing to make a bit more room.
Thank you for the info. Can you post a pic of it installed if possible?


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A well intended suggestion from you i'm sure, but really outside the scope of the application we are talking about. Simply put, a rear-facing seat for anything but an infant in our vehicles will not work.

I'm sure the Swedish scientists are decent at what they do, but I can point you to current studies that provide evidence that children are 30-40% more likely to survive a car accident when they are in the back seat as opposed to the front seat-- So as a parent of a larger 3yo --(who wants to keep his legs intact) in the back seat he goes in his forward facing seat. It's not a matter of comfort, it's a matter of what actually works.


Agree rear seat is safer not sure if its true for our p-cars though since engine is in the back. But I assume for most head on collisions having the little ones in the back is preferable.

I assume most of us have an alternative car for kid transports and we just rather drive the p-car to daycare and school

http://www.svd.se/nyheter/inrikes/ba...gt_8086940.svd

(assume google translate can help)

Sorry about the language in the link but its basically latest findings regarding kids in car seat. In Sweden ppl start putting kids in forward facing seats around age of 4y and they are more likely to get hurt in accidents then 3y olds traveling backwards.

NTF (national traffic safety advisory in Sweden) says traveling in a proper backwards facing chair is 5 times safer for the 4y old kids.

I would love to have a child seat in the back for my 4y so I dont have to drive the horrible Santa Fe to daycare
 
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Originally Posted by Zero Cool
Well in the U.S. the recommendations from the American Academy of Pediatrics (also based on science) is the following:

"The AAP advises parents to keep their toddlers in rear-facing car seats until age 2, or until they reach the maximum height and weight for their seat."

They went on to say...“The ‘age 2’ recommendation is not a deadline, but rather a guideline to help parents decide when to make the transition,” Dr. Durbin said. “Smaller children will benefit from remaining rear-facing longer, while other children may reach the maximum height or weight before 2 years of age.”

So at least here in the US, it is more based on height/weight
Well Sweden is/has been the leading car-safatey country for quite some time

Recommendations here is rear facing seats until 4-5y due to statistics in actual accidents. But in a p-car it is hard to have a rear-mounted rear facing seat, I am hoping to find a iso-fix mountable rear facing seat for my front passenger seats. There is no cahnce as I see it for a proper rear facing seat in the back, its too cramped...
 
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