Can a modded Porsche really beat a Hayabusa?
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Ok lets be more specfic
1- U said " A Hayabusa with just exhaust/ECU is faster than the Sledgehammer "....How do explain those vids
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFk5luw7imc
http://www.streetfire.net/video/prot...ull_128781.htm
Scott 996tt and David GT2 made less hp/tq and ran slower 60-130 than sledgehammer
What do u think???
2- u said " a Hayabusa with minor modds and pump fuel is crazy fast and with a sprayer is unbeatable, the last i PBOXED did 100-200 in 2sec flat."
No one said that modded porsches can beat bolt on busa + Nos
but it is still depends how much the busa spray
Im sure u saw that vid before...The SW GTT vs LMR TT/Nos Vette and LMR TT Camaro.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LeZQawQvfU
That +1000rwhp Camaro ran 60-130 in 4.2sec which is as quick as SPI Sledgehammer
As i saw the Bolt ons ZX14 plus 50 shot of nos can't even catch the Camaro
What do u think??
1- U said " A Hayabusa with just exhaust/ECU is faster than the Sledgehammer "....How do explain those vids
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFk5luw7imc
http://www.streetfire.net/video/prot...ull_128781.htm
Scott 996tt and David GT2 made less hp/tq and ran slower 60-130 than sledgehammer
What do u think???
2- u said " a Hayabusa with minor modds and pump fuel is crazy fast and with a sprayer is unbeatable, the last i PBOXED did 100-200 in 2sec flat."
No one said that modded porsches can beat bolt on busa + Nos
but it is still depends how much the busa sprayIm sure u saw that vid before...The SW GTT vs LMR TT/Nos Vette and LMR TT Camaro.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LeZQawQvfU
That +1000rwhp Camaro ran 60-130 in 4.2sec which is as quick as SPI Sledgehammer
As i saw the Bolt ons ZX14 plus 50 shot of nos can't even catch the Camaro
What do u think??
Good videos. Like I said earlier, from a roll, the bikes advantage is no longer there and the higher the speed the better.
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Scott, its me who did this thread, and the only reason is to make clear that a bike is fast. All videos posted here cars beat bikes easy, even from a dig.
Switzer posted GTR P800 and SPI750 beating a busa.
Today i'll try and do a video racing a busa with my 600WHP car and you'll be the judge if a VTG based car can beat a bike.
Switzer posted GTR P800 and SPI750 beating a busa.
Today i'll try and do a video racing a busa with my 600WHP car and you'll be the judge if a VTG based car can beat a bike.
that's like me racing a against a porsche turbo with a GTR, my heart just won't be in it. I don't think yours will either.
As for the comparison of the GT3RS to the TT on a track, bad comparison. you can make a TT a lethal track car, you can never get a Busa to handle like a gixer which is a much better bike by the way
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Serious question for the bike guys: What's faster from say 40-150mph? A stock or lightly modded GSXR 1000 or Busa, or a heavily modified R6 that's been re-geared and also spraying a 75-shot of nitrous?
The R6 is ridden by a very experienced 160 lb rider who claims he consistently pulls both stock and lightly modded liter bikes when he's spraying.
Thoughts?
The R6 is ridden by a very experienced 160 lb rider who claims he consistently pulls both stock and lightly modded liter bikes when he's spraying.
Thoughts?
Lightly modded, a Superstock.. NOT SuperBike BMW S1000RR recently Dynoed out at 200.56 RWHP on the official British SuperBike Dyno (all race winners have to be dynoed). It had a full system (headers and pipe) a Power Commander (much like getting a tune from EPL or Proto) and a BMC race filter. 200 RWHP from a normally aspirated Bike is just freaking nuts. The R6 gets obliterated by a 200 RWHP LiterBike.
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My buddy (making the same power as me) raced his friend that had a slower bike than he did (stock 600 with a 50 shot, I think)...but he was still quick down low. Here's the video of those two runs:
http://www.streetfire.net/video/prot...us_2068706.htm
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That's what I thought. I ran one the other night at 750 rwhp and only pulled him by about a car length from 40-140 or so (no video of that race). He was faster than any other bike I've ever raced except for a 184 rwhp busa. A GSXR 1000 was next to him and we both beat him.
My buddy (making the same power as me) raced his friend that had a slower bike than he did (stock 600 with a 50 shot, I think)...but he was still quick down low. Here's the video of those two runs:
http://www.streetfire.net/video/prot...us_2068706.htm
My buddy (making the same power as me) raced his friend that had a slower bike than he did (stock 600 with a 50 shot, I think)...but he was still quick down low. Here's the video of those two runs:
http://www.streetfire.net/video/prot...us_2068706.htm
I still want to see a BMW S1000RR with mods run one of the big Cars here.. Should be e really interesting race.
Cheers and thanks for posting..
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The R6 on 75 shot spray will beat a stock GSXR1000 or Hayabusa, but will lose out at the top end to them, because you just can't spray for that long.
Lightly modded, a Superstock.. NOT SuperBike BMW S1000RR recently Dynoed out at 200.56 RWHP on the official British SuperBike Dyno (all race winners have to be dynoed). It had a full system (headers and pipe) a Power Commander (much like getting a tune from EPL or Proto) and a BMC race filter. 200 RWHP from a normally aspirated Bike is just freaking nuts. The R6 gets obliterated by a 200 RWHP LiterBike.
Lightly modded, a Superstock.. NOT SuperBike BMW S1000RR recently Dynoed out at 200.56 RWHP on the official British SuperBike Dyno (all race winners have to be dynoed). It had a full system (headers and pipe) a Power Commander (much like getting a tune from EPL or Proto) and a BMC race filter. 200 RWHP from a normally aspirated Bike is just freaking nuts. The R6 gets obliterated by a 200 RWHP LiterBike.
A builder ( who built AMA racebikes ) also dyno the BMW S1000RR vs 2009 Hayabusa vs 2009 GSX-R1000 all in same dyno and here what he got
BMW S1000RR made 196.4rwhp..On pumpgas and it 34 mile only
2009 Suzuki Hayabusa made 183.9rwhp
2009 Suzuki GSX-R1000 165.7rwhp
His dyno littel high but the differance is damn impressive
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Read the section below in red.... Sorry, but you can't just decline to accept the realities of modern day Motorcycles.. They are not allowed to run the full course now.. The record from 1993 is redundant to an extreme. Modern day Motorcycles are massively faster than that Bike was.. I have pointed it out and told you that it was 112 HP and on that era's tires. Sorry that I can't force the management of the Nurburgring to allow Bikes to test on the full circuit just to make you happy, but my powers don't stretch that far.
Try to keep an open mind and bear with those of us that have actually raced both Cars and Motorcycles and still do. We tend to know what we are talking about vs. those people that have not ridden a modern day sportbike. My position is and always has been that in the end, Cars are just faster, but they require a TON of mods to reach what a $10,000 Bike can do right off the showroom floor. If you want to talk mod for mod, a Motorcycle will kill any street car on the planet... Note that a turbo'ed Hayabusa went 272 MPH in a recent standing mile event.
Bill Warner's 272 MPH on a Turbo Hayabusa!
Bill Warner Builds a Funky Flier
From the July, 2010 issue of Super Streetbike
Maxton played host as Bill Warner, a 41 year-old marine biologist from Florida, crushed the longstanding record of 260.288 mph (since 2005) in the standing mile.
British motorcycle magazine Performance Bikes Magazine began testing their bikes in a regular feature at the Nordschleife in March 2007 and finished in December 2007. Bikes were tested by Dale Lomas and a character named only as The Baron. As with sport auto, all machines tested are road-legal (albeit in the UK) and shod with road-legal Bridgestone BT002 Pro Race tyres. To date there are 28 lap times published in the regular feature. As motorcycles are forbidden to participate in industry pool sessions and after-hours test sessions, Performance Bikes were forced to test during quiet mid-week tourist sessions, where speed limits apply in some sections. This means their lap times are measured from bridge to gantry (see below) and are approximately 22 seconds shorter than a full 20.832 km (12.944 mi) Nordschleife lap.
Fastest Record Breaking Lap @ the Ring was just completed (December)!
1. MV Agusta F41000 312 (7:21.8, December 2007)
2. R1 (7:28.8, October 2007)
3. Aprilia RSV 1000R (7:32.6 August 2007)
4. Ducati 1098 (7:34 Dec. 2007 - The Baron was injured during this run)
5. GSXR 1000 K7 (7:35.7 Date?)
6. Honda CBR 1000RR (8:12.6.... 2007)
<table class="wikitable"><tbody><tr><th>Length</th> <th>Time</th> <th>Make Model</th> <th>Rider</th> <th>Date</th> <th>Source</th> <th>Notes</th> </tr> <tr> <td>19,100 m</td> <td>7:17.0</td> <td>P3 Suzuki GSX-R600K7</td> <td>Andy "AndyPath" Carlile</td> <td>n/a</td> <td>Fast Bikes Magazine March 2009</td> <td>Road legal project. Built by Richard Vanags at P3 Unlimited for Fast Bikes Magazine. Based on a Suzuki GSXR 600K7.</td> </tr> <tr> <td>19,100 m</td> <td>7:21.8</td> <td>MV Agusta F4 R 312</td> <td>Andy "AndyPath" Carlile</td> <td>15 Oct 2007</td> <td>Performance Bikes Magazine January 2008</td> <td>n/a</td> </tr> <tr> <td>19,100 m</td> <td>7:28.8</td> <td>Yamaha YZF-R1</td> <td>"The Baron"</td> <td>n/a</td> <td>Performance Bikes Magazine October 2007</td> <td>n/a</td> </tr> <tr> <td>
</td> <td>7:32.1</td> <td>Yamaha YZF-R1</td> <td>Brendan Keirle</td> <td>n/a</td> <td>Sliders Guest House video lap Aug 2006</td> <td>n/a</td> </tr> <tr> <td>
</td> <td>7:32.6</td> <td>Aprilia RSV1000R Factory</td> <td>"The Baron"</td> <td>n/a</td> <td>Reported in PB Magazine August 2007</td> <td>n/a</td> </tr> <tr> <td>
</td> <td>7:35.7</td> <td>Suzuki GSX-R1000K7</td> <td>Dale Lomas (Ex-Roadtest Editor of Performance Bikes Magazine)</td> <td>n/a</td> <td><sup id="cite_ref-100" class="reference">[101]</sup></td> <td>n/a</td> </tr> <tr> <td>
</td> <td>7:50</td> <td>Suzuki GSX-R1000 vs Aprilia RSV1000R</td> <td>Fausto "Faustone" Severi & Helmut Dähne</td> <td>2002</td> <td><sup id="cite_ref-101" class="reference">[102]</sup></td> <td>n/a</td></tr></tbody></table>
Try to keep an open mind and bear with those of us that have actually raced both Cars and Motorcycles and still do. We tend to know what we are talking about vs. those people that have not ridden a modern day sportbike. My position is and always has been that in the end, Cars are just faster, but they require a TON of mods to reach what a $10,000 Bike can do right off the showroom floor. If you want to talk mod for mod, a Motorcycle will kill any street car on the planet... Note that a turbo'ed Hayabusa went 272 MPH in a recent standing mile event.
Bill Warner's 272 MPH on a Turbo Hayabusa!
Bill Warner Builds a Funky Flier
From the July, 2010 issue of Super Streetbike
Maxton played host as Bill Warner, a 41 year-old marine biologist from Florida, crushed the longstanding record of 260.288 mph (since 2005) in the standing mile.
British motorcycle magazine Performance Bikes Magazine began testing their bikes in a regular feature at the Nordschleife in March 2007 and finished in December 2007. Bikes were tested by Dale Lomas and a character named only as The Baron. As with sport auto, all machines tested are road-legal (albeit in the UK) and shod with road-legal Bridgestone BT002 Pro Race tyres. To date there are 28 lap times published in the regular feature. As motorcycles are forbidden to participate in industry pool sessions and after-hours test sessions, Performance Bikes were forced to test during quiet mid-week tourist sessions, where speed limits apply in some sections. This means their lap times are measured from bridge to gantry (see below) and are approximately 22 seconds shorter than a full 20.832 km (12.944 mi) Nordschleife lap.
Fastest Record Breaking Lap @ the Ring was just completed (December)!
1. MV Agusta F41000 312 (7:21.8, December 2007)
2. R1 (7:28.8, October 2007)
3. Aprilia RSV 1000R (7:32.6 August 2007)
4. Ducati 1098 (7:34 Dec. 2007 - The Baron was injured during this run)
5. GSXR 1000 K7 (7:35.7 Date?)
6. Honda CBR 1000RR (8:12.6.... 2007)
<table class="wikitable"><tbody><tr><th>Length</th> <th>Time</th> <th>Make Model</th> <th>Rider</th> <th>Date</th> <th>Source</th> <th>Notes</th> </tr> <tr> <td>19,100 m</td> <td>7:17.0</td> <td>P3 Suzuki GSX-R600K7</td> <td>Andy "AndyPath" Carlile</td> <td>n/a</td> <td>Fast Bikes Magazine March 2009</td> <td>Road legal project. Built by Richard Vanags at P3 Unlimited for Fast Bikes Magazine. Based on a Suzuki GSXR 600K7.</td> </tr> <tr> <td>19,100 m</td> <td>7:21.8</td> <td>MV Agusta F4 R 312</td> <td>Andy "AndyPath" Carlile</td> <td>15 Oct 2007</td> <td>Performance Bikes Magazine January 2008</td> <td>n/a</td> </tr> <tr> <td>19,100 m</td> <td>7:28.8</td> <td>Yamaha YZF-R1</td> <td>"The Baron"</td> <td>n/a</td> <td>Performance Bikes Magazine October 2007</td> <td>n/a</td> </tr> <tr> <td>
</td> <td>7:32.1</td> <td>Yamaha YZF-R1</td> <td>Brendan Keirle</td> <td>n/a</td> <td>Sliders Guest House video lap Aug 2006</td> <td>n/a</td> </tr> <tr> <td>
</td> <td>7:32.6</td> <td>Aprilia RSV1000R Factory</td> <td>"The Baron"</td> <td>n/a</td> <td>Reported in PB Magazine August 2007</td> <td>n/a</td> </tr> <tr> <td>
</td> <td>7:35.7</td> <td>Suzuki GSX-R1000K7</td> <td>Dale Lomas (Ex-Roadtest Editor of Performance Bikes Magazine)</td> <td>n/a</td> <td><sup id="cite_ref-100" class="reference">[101]</sup></td> <td>n/a</td> </tr> <tr> <td>
</td> <td>7:50</td> <td>Suzuki GSX-R1000 vs Aprilia RSV1000R</td> <td>Fausto "Faustone" Severi & Helmut Dähne</td> <td>2002</td> <td><sup id="cite_ref-101" class="reference">[102]</sup></td> <td>n/a</td></tr></tbody></table>
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The R6 on 75 shot spray will beat a stock GSXR1000 or Hayabusa, but will lose out at the top end to them, because you just can't spray for that long.
Lightly modded, a Superstock.. NOT SuperBike BMW S1000RR recently Dynoed out at 200.56 RWHP on the official British SuperBike Dyno (all race winners have to be dynoed). It had a full system (headers and pipe) a Power Commander (much like getting a tune from EPL or Proto) and a BMC race filter. 200 RWHP from a normally aspirated Bike is just freaking nuts. The R6 gets obliterated by a 200 RWHP LiterBike.
Lightly modded, a Superstock.. NOT SuperBike BMW S1000RR recently Dynoed out at 200.56 RWHP on the official British SuperBike Dyno (all race winners have to be dynoed). It had a full system (headers and pipe) a Power Commander (much like getting a tune from EPL or Proto) and a BMC race filter. 200 RWHP from a normally aspirated Bike is just freaking nuts. The R6 gets obliterated by a 200 RWHP LiterBike.
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Bikes ran 19,100 meters versus 20,800 meters that the cars run, that is a 1,700 meter difference or about a mile. HUGE difference in times in one mile. Again, no comparable data for the 20,800 meter run that the cars do..
Milou, if you were reading earlier posts you would have seen that the link posted to the times that 80 shilling just posted was there many posts ago.
Milou, if you were reading earlier posts you would have seen that the link posted to the times that 80 shilling just posted was there many posts ago.
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Hayabusa with exhaust/ECU and sprayer will EAT any Porsche at any speed end of story
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wow, you are full of wrong
"The 917/30 could go from 0-62 mph (100 km/h) in 1.9 seconds, 0-100 mph (160 km/h) in 3.9 seconds, 0-200 mph (320 km/h) in 10.9 seconds, and on to a top speed of more than 260 mph (420 km/h)."
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Is that an everyday car on street tires?
I'll PBOX the busa with ECU/exhaust/spray and provide data to compare
