Porsche plans mid-engined 458 Italia, Gallardo Fighter
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Porsche plans mid-engined 458 Italia, Gallardo Fighter
Porsche has plans for a new mid-engined supercar that, if approved by bosses at parent company
Volkswagen, will take it into direct competition with Ferrari, McLaren and sister firm Lamborghini.
Conceived as a regular model rather than a high-priced, limited-edition production special, the new
two-seater is intended to be positioned above the 911 but below the the 918 Spyder. Roadster and
coupé versions are being discussed.
This would pitch the new Porsche into the same price territory as the Ferrari 458 Italia, McLaren
MP4-12C and Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4. The 458 Italia lists at £169,545 in the UK — £59,313
more than Porsche’s most expensive ‘regular’ model, the 911 Turbo.
“We’re looking to extend the range,” Porsche boss Mathias Muller revealed in a recent interview.
“We’ve got an idea to do another mid-engined model. We’re thinking above the 911 but below
the 918 Spyder.”
Muller suggests that the new supercar has already progressed beyond the initial drawing board stage.
“We have ideas on styling and design, which we will continue to develop in the coming months,”
he revealed. “We’ll also evaluate the economic side and then decide [whether to push ahead].”
The Boxster, Cayman and 911 use unitary steel construction, but it is believed that Porsche is considering
extensive use of carbonfibre-reinforced plastic to reduce weight. Recent low-volume models at Porsche,
including the Carrera GT and 911 GT2 RS, have given the firm experience in lightweight construction.
The business case for the new supercar is rumoured to focus on annual global sales of between 2500
and 3000 — around half that of the 911 Turbo and its various derivatives, including the GT2.
An alternative plan to borrow heavily from the second-gen Audi R8’s aluminium spaceframe architecture
was never given serious consideration, according to a senior source. The initial proposals for the new
Porsche supercar follow a similar parts-sharing strategy to that undertaken with the Boxster/Cayman
and 911, which have a 60 per cent commonality.
“It is entirely possible that we could use a front end that’s similar but not necessarily the same as the
911’s, including components such as the axle and suspension,” said our insider. “The rear end wouldn’t
be unlike that of the Boxster/Cayman in architectural terms, just bigger to accommodate a larger mid-
mounted engine and gearbox installation, while providing greater overall length and width than the 911.”
Engine plans are less clear. But to compete with the 458 Italia, Gallardo LP560-4 and MP4-12C, the new
Porsche will need in the region of 550bhp to 600bhp.Options include a version of Porsche’s 3.8-litre flat
six, which in its ultimate twin-turbo form, as seen in the GT2 RS, currently kicks out 620bhp.
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking... awesome guys, thanks! lol
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better be some car for $250K or greater alot of competition @ that price point. not only doz it have to out gun 458/gallardos it must smoke the McLaren MP4-12C which jus set the Top Gear track record @ 1:15 DEAD and is rumored to do the RING @ 7:00mins DEAD i hope they do it but i have my doubts 918 Spyder hybrid ($845K YIKES) is gonna be heavier and slower (target RING time < 7:30 r u kidding me WTF!) i think Porsche has lost its way hoping to get an invite to check out the 12C in the metal and see/hear what all the fuss is about
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the 918 is stationed as a revolutionary race car HYBRID feat and is its claim to fame.
Note I write REVOLUTIONARY as PORSCHE invents what others follow.
And that Porsche super car concept is HAWT..hope it happens.
Note I write REVOLUTIONARY as PORSCHE invents what others follow.
And that Porsche super car concept is HAWT..hope it happens.
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Originally Posted by CaptnCrash
Oh somewhere between a 911TT and a 918 ? So between US $150k and $850k ... That's just too funny.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking... awesome guys, thanks! lol
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Originally Posted by CaptnCrash
Oh somewhere between a 911TT and a 918 ? So between US $150k and $850k ... That's just too funny.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking... awesome guys, thanks! lol
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more news:
According to Autobild.de the next Porsche superstar will be called the 961. If those numbers ring a bell, that's because Porsche created a 961 race car that only saw limited action. Based on the 959, the 961 ran three races before ultimately finding a home in Porsche's Stuttgart-based museum.
It's being reported that this modern 961 will be modeled after the 918 Spyder, yet will arrive in coupe form. Power will be provided by a V8, however, an electric motor will also be available to provide boost and push output up to 600 horsepower.
Expect to see the flagship Porsche 961 by ~2013, price: ~180k USD, 30% more than the 911 Turbo .
According to Autobild.de the next Porsche superstar will be called the 961. If those numbers ring a bell, that's because Porsche created a 961 race car that only saw limited action. Based on the 959, the 961 ran three races before ultimately finding a home in Porsche's Stuttgart-based museum.
It's being reported that this modern 961 will be modeled after the 918 Spyder, yet will arrive in coupe form. Power will be provided by a V8, however, an electric motor will also be available to provide boost and push output up to 600 horsepower.
Expect to see the flagship Porsche 961 by ~2013, price: ~180k USD, 30% more than the 911 Turbo .
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Hu?
WRONG! Actually it's the other way around folks... Porsche is a major share holder in VW, and increasing stake to merger (or buy into VW).
"FRANKFURT, March 27 2011 (Reuters) - Debt-laden German carmaker Porsche SE (PSHG_p.DE) has approved an almost 5 billion euro ($7 billion) capital increase, clearing the way for a merger with Volkswagen (VOWG_p.DE), the group said late on Sunday."
...http://www.reuters.com
WRONG! Actually it's the other way around folks... Porsche is a major share holder in VW, and increasing stake to merger (or buy into VW).
"FRANKFURT, March 27 2011 (Reuters) - Debt-laden German carmaker Porsche SE (PSHG_p.DE) has approved an almost 5 billion euro ($7 billion) capital increase, clearing the way for a merger with Volkswagen (VOWG_p.DE), the group said late on Sunday."
...http://www.reuters.com
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Hu?
WRONG! Actually it's the other way around folks... Porsche is a major share holder in VW, and increasing stake to merger (or buy into VW).
"FRANKFURT, March 27 2011 (Reuters) - Debt-laden German carmaker Porsche SE (PSHG_p.DE) has approved an almost 5 billion euro ($7 billion) capital increase, clearing the way for a merger with Volkswagen (VOWG_p.DE), the group said late on Sunday."
...http://www.reuters.com
WRONG! Actually it's the other way around folks... Porsche is a major share holder in VW, and increasing stake to merger (or buy into VW).
"FRANKFURT, March 27 2011 (Reuters) - Debt-laden German carmaker Porsche SE (PSHG_p.DE) has approved an almost 5 billion euro ($7 billion) capital increase, clearing the way for a merger with Volkswagen (VOWG_p.DE), the group said late on Sunday."
...http://www.reuters.com