+1 to you jhb. It's funny how a select few seem to think they possess some kind of brilliance in making a determination over what is trivial unworthy discussion and what is not. Sickening really, but wow boy it makes me laugh.. Being the black sheep in this entire discussion, neg rep'd to buggery, basically mocked and jeered at for expressing what was nothing more than information I had received from quality sources after calling out some wild fantasy has resulted in 6 pages on a thread that had basically gone nowhere prior too. Gotta love it. I think that's what keeps me coming back for more..... Brilliant jhb! Some entertainment money just cant buy

 

So what did the mods say to his lordship? Do tell.

 

check out Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta tires

 

Had to answer my own question on this one.....high-up the line Michelin tire techs say it is fine to run N1s on front and N2s on rear even tho Porsche says no go. They simply said let Porsche tech call them and they will straighten things out. The N-designation is just something special for Porsche, so Michelin thinks best for the turbo to stay with Ns, avoiding PSSs at least for time being.

 

Sorry we all got so carried away with the thread. Glad you worked it out for yourself. They are all good choices.
JS

 

There you have it. Nothin like doing the Full 360 degrees john. Funny. They told me exactly the same thing so the story is consistent globally. But then again...what would the manufacturer (Michelin) know

I think i mentioned some pages back something about if you can afford the car surely you can afford the right tires for it .

 

But really all we know factually is that Porsche requires N-rated tires, Michelin PSS are not N-rated, there fore Michelin PSS should not be used on Porsches. There is no factual information/evidence that Michelin does not recommend use of the PSS on Porsches. We have heard anecdotal information from un-named Michelin personnel that says don’t use the PSS on Porsche but nothing beyond that. From Porsche:

Only tires with the same make and with the
same specification code (e.g. “N0”, “N1”...)

can be mounted

 

Interestingly enough jhb if you take the time to contact your own country's head Michelin distributor and speak to the actual person employed for Michelin's technical advice you will find nothing anecdotal, and naming names won't change that advice either. Anyway....

Not that i want to open a new argument here but that earlier allegation that the 911 that was tested and sighted wearing non N PSS is unsubstantiated therefore is fantasy until proven otherwise with facts from Michelin themselves. Again they should know what was on those cars.

 

Enough belittling anyone who doesn't believe in paying more for what they believe to be lower quality tires and doesn't buy into the N-Spec religion.

/THREAD.

 

I guess the big tire merchants (Tire Rack, Discount Tire, etc.) here in the states haven't received the "word" from Michelin since there are no disclaimers from them saying "not recommended" for Porsche. That's really the point I've been trying to make. When Michelin (or any other non-N rated brand) makes that statement publicly, no more arguments from me.

 

Tire dealers sell tires. Manufacturers' design and produce the product, and often in conjunction with the car manufacturer. Sales requires identifying a number of things in the process but the prime focus is on making sure a sale is made and that entails finding what the customer can afford to pay. That way the customer doesn't go to someone else that will. No arguments from me here either jhb but the facts are the facts with regard to N and non N so far as the manufacturer is concerned. Whilst they aren't mandating that you can't use the PSS on a 911 they most certainly don't recommend using it over the N spec offerings. They should know after all they make both offerings so they will get to sell one if the customer wishes to choose their brand.

 

Paul I don't mean to add more fuel to this flame - one side is not going to convince the other - but 911 wearing PSS being sighted is not fantasy.

 

Speed
Is that what you really think this discussion was about. Who could afford the N spec or not.? If so then you really only like to listen to yourself talk. Should we all list our stock portfolio before we enter into a healthy discussion about our cars. Didn't realize this forum was only for the "real haves". Talk about .

 

Lots of Porsches in the PSS test...

http://www.motortrend.com/features/p.../photo_03.html

http://youtu.be/85SNn5Z-5V8

 

You haven't responded to my previous comments, but do me a favor--call up Porsche and ask if your aftermarket parts are recommended by Porsche and let us know what they say.