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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 09:57 AM
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Not quite yet no

This one's got Sharky written all over it.

 
Old Oct 24, 2011 | 10:30 AM
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This one's got Sharky written all over it.

Hah ready and tailor-made for me Well except for that it doesn't have Magnesium wheels but a certain company
 
Old Oct 24, 2011 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by sharkster
This lovely white 997 GT2RSNumber 267 to be precise:
Off with those factory rear links:
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There is one difference with the factory GT2RS (and 4.0 RS) rear lower link. The ends are indeed solid although the excentric bolt is still there to turn its ugly bolt head when you don't want it. So on with the RSS Bump steer kit and lock out plates:

Alex, thanks for another very interesting and informative thread, as always.
1. So the GT2 RS indeed uses heim joint/solid rod end bearing in its rear toe control arm? Is this towards the end that connects to the wheel/wheel carriage?
2. Any other link uses heim joint?

They've mentioned this (heim joint in GT2 RS) but it has not been clear until now which arm this joint is in. TIA.
 
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Originally Posted by cannga
Alex, thanks for another very interesting and informative thread, as always.
1. So the GT2 RS indeed uses heim joint/solid rod end bearing in its rear toe control arm? Is this towards the end that connects to the wheel/wheel carriage?
2. Any other link uses heim joint?

They've mentioned this (heim joint in GT2 RS) but it has not been clear until now which arm this joint is in. TIA.
my pleasure cannga and it's got a solid joint at both ends of that lower arm indeed! Nowhere else and it still uses the annoying bolt that turns under load and changes your toe angle
 
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Sharky, awesome car and great build, thanks for walking us through it. But I couldn't help but feel like it was missing something. I couldn't put my finger on it until now. I finally realized what's missing...Great White seems to fit well lol
 
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Sharky, awesome car and great build, thanks for walking us through it. But I couldn't help but feel like it was missing something. I couldn't put my finger on it until now. I finally realized what's missing...Great White seems to fit well lol
That right there... oh man....
 
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Hi Alex - this is first time that any road modern 911 uses heim joint in their links!
Please clarify: I don't know if I misunderstood something but it seems like from your picture the GT2 RS's rear toe control arm uses neoprene and not rod end bearing/heim joint as you've mentioned?

Pics of the GT2 RS versus RSS toe link below below. Where the red arrow points, doesn't it look like neoprene? Did I miss something or is it not the right picture? Thanks again for the informative thread.





 

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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by cannga
Hi Alex - this is first time that any road modern 911 uses heim joint in their links!
Please clarify: I don't know if I misunderstood something but it seems like from your picture the GT2 RS's rear toe control arm uses neoprene and not rod end bearing/heim joint as you've mentioned?

Pics of the GT2 RS versus RSS toe link below below. Where the red arrow points, doesn't it look like neoprene? Did I miss something or is it not the right picture? Thanks again for the informative thread.





The arrow points to a boot Underneath it's always solid on the GT3/GT2s.
 
Old Oct 26, 2011 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by sharkster
The arrow points to a boot Underneath it's always solid on the GT3/GT2s.
Oh so GT2 RS is not the only one with solid joint in toe link? GT3 and GT2 also?
Porsche mentioned GT2 RS has "extra" heim joint over normal GT2 IIRC - I am trying to learn which one it is, just out of curiosity.

Thank you!
 
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Originally Posted by cannga
Oh so GT2 RS is not the only one with solid joint in toe link? GT3 and GT2 also?
Porsche mentioned GT2 RS has "extra" heim joint over normal GT2 IIRC - I am trying to learn which one it is, just out of curiosity.

Thank you!
Roger that. The one at the other end with the eccentric bolt
 
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Thanks Alex. I always seem to learn something from your post.
 
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Originally Posted by cannga
Thanks Alex. I always seem to learn something from your post.
Hah you know a lot mate! As far as these arms go they're better than the factory 911s/TT ones but I'd still rather use these so that the toe angle doesn't change:
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Beautiful.
 
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Beautiful.
Thank you and she'll be coming back for more soon:P
 
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Originally Posted by sharkster
There is one difference with the factory GT2RS (and 4.0 RS) rear lower link. The ends are indeed solid ..
Hi Alex, quick question please: If I would like replace the rear toe link of my Turbo with this GT2RS link, are the links the same size length wise and it's a straigtforward replacement? GT2RS link will fit Turbo without any modification? TIA.

For others reading this: as mentioned in my Bilstein thread, one of the main approaches to suspension mod is to replace factory neorprene/rubber suspension links with links having solid joints. Of all the links in the Turbo, rear toe link is quite unique in that it seems to receive near universal recommendation for replacement from all tuners I've spoken to. Interesting thing is I know this recommendation for a long time but has been hesitant, and now lo and behold, GT2RS appears with all solid rear toe links! (GT2/GT3 don't have it.) The Turbo's rear end tends to have er "unwanted movements" in the rear, and solid joint rear toe link will help.

The GT2RS is the first modern 911 ever that has solid links on both ends of rear toe link; it was mentioned during development of GT2RS by Porsche engineers, who seemed cagey in naming where this solid joint is. I was resigned to not knowing the secret until Alex (wonderfully) mentioned it here on this thread.
 

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