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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 05:00 AM
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Changed my sway bar settings from medium-medium to soft-front; medium-rear. TECHARTs work way better on the crappy roads here. PASM normal is perfect for DD, while PASM sport stiffens it up for quicker drives on better roads.

I'm still curious to find out how the Bilsteins will work compared with the TECHARTs.
 
Old Oct 11, 2012 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by amw
Congrats on the V3s. I think they are a perfect setup for the street and occasional track day. I've had them on 3 cars and love them! Even on 20's the ride is way better than stock wheels.
What do you mean even on 20's? it would of been that much better with 19's?
 
Old Oct 11, 2012 | 09:41 AM
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What do you mean even on 20's? it would of been that much better with 19's?
Sorry, I meant the ride on OEM suspension and OEM 19's. Agreed V3s on 19's or even 18's would probably be even better.
 
Old Oct 13, 2012 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by DaBrat
Changed my sway bar settings from medium-medium to soft-front; medium-rear. TECHARTs work way better on the crappy roads here. PASM normal is perfect for DD, while PASM sport stiffens it up for quicker drives on better roads.
I'm still curious to find out how the Bilsteins will work compared with the TECHARTs.
Regarding Bilstein springs, my Porsche shop (Lucent, Southern Cal.) got them while I was playing aroung with spring rates a while ago, so I think they are readily available if you want to experiment. I should caution that while pro's change springs in their sleep, for us amateurs changing spring is somewhat of a complicated endeavor so I wouldn't do it until you've confirmed with Techart that indeed their springs are stiffer. I think it would be a good idea to give Techart a call!

Regarding stiffnes sorry I forgot to mention something important. A while ago I was under car changing drop links and was shocked to find that my GMG sway bars with its polyurethane bushing were nearly frozen in place. PolyU bushing is NOT a maintenance free item and needs to be lubricated with synthetic grease such as Super Lube, widely available on ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUPER-LUBE-SYNTHETIC-GREASE-21030-3oz-TUBE-/150868210193 or at Summit Racing http://www.summitracing.com/parts/UP...n/?prefilter=1 . My car *WAS* noticeably (hopefully not just in my head ) more compliant afterwards.
In my car I actually went one step further and switch from the aftermarket polyurethane bushing that comes with GMG sway bars to the stock rubber bushing, which I prefer because it is maintenance free and is not as noisy (polyurethane bushing is stiff and noisy, rubber bushing is soft and quiet, as always a trade-off one has to consider). I did not like the idea of something that requires such maintenance in a daily driver. Lubricating the rear sway bar is easy, but the front can be quite a hassle.

And lastly although I love the Tarett drop links, I would again suggest that before you go to the drastic step of changing springs, take off the Tarett drop links and see what happens. It's cheap to do and part of the fun and learning process - I hope LOL.
 

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Old Oct 13, 2012 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by cannga
Regarding Bilstein springs, my Porsche shop (Lucent, Southern Cal.) got them while I was playing aroung with spring rates a while ago, so I think they are readily available if you want to experiment. I should caution that while pro's change springs in their sleep, for us amateurs changing spring is somewhat of a complicated endeavor so I wouldn't do it until you've confirmed with Techart that indeed their springs are stiffer. I think it would be a good idea to give Techart a call!

Regarding stiffnes sorry I forgot to mention something important. A while ago I was under car changing drop links and was shocked to find that my GMG sway bars with its polyurethane bushing were nearly frozen in place. PolyU bushing is NOT a maintenance free item and needs to be lubricated with synthetic grease such as Super Lube, widely available on ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUPER-LUBE-SYNTHETIC-GREASE-21030-3oz-TUBE-/150868210193 or at Summit Racing http://www.summitracing.com/parts/UP...n/?prefilter=1 . My car *WAS* noticeably (hopefully not just in my head ) more compliant afterwards.
In my car I actually went one step further and switch from the aftermarket polyurethane bushing that comes with GMG sway bars to the stock rubber bushing, which I prefer because it is maintenance free and is not as noisy (polyurethane bushing is stiff and noisy, rubber bushing is soft and quiet, as always a trade-off one has to consider). I did not like the idea of something that requires such maintenance in a daily driver. Lubricating the rear sway bar is easy, but the front can be quite a hassle.

And lastly although I love the Tarett drop links, I would again suggest that before you go to the drastic step of changing springs, take off the Tarett drop links and see what happens. It's cheap to do and part of the fun and learning process - I hope LOL.
Good to know that I will be able to get the springs. I have contacted TECHART and they replied saying that they will give me a reply soon. Will keep you guys updated.

Let me also take this opportunity to say that the best thing about my setup so far is all the companies I have used - TECHART, Tarett, RSS, Champion, Vivid, AWE, Suncoast, ACG, have been excellent with communication and customer support. Highly recommend these companies.

As for the Tarett Drop Links, I installed them separate from the rest of the setup and to me, the ride quality wasn't really affected by them much.

Thanks for all your help. Car has been running well. I can accept the current ride quality vs. handling. Just fine tuning at this point.
 
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