What did they improve on the turbo's?

 

It comes down to Mezger vs. overall improvements.

The .2 is the better all around car no doubt, but the motor in the .1 is a true gem as we all know. It depends what you are after! If you are leaving the motor alone, go for the .2 - if you are after big power, you may want to consider the .1 because of the powerplant.

Also, if you must have an auto - go with the PDK .2

 

They improved the VTG turbos for better low end torque and response.

 

OP - get the car you found at ~77k and immediately cancel your membership to the forum. Spend the rest of your free time enjoying the car and the island!

Seriously, that sounds like a great find. Your questions can be debated for days, and I am not positioning one way or another, but the fact remains that if you got that Porsche and never read another post about this you likely will be as happy as any turbo owner ever has been for as long as you own that vehicle.

 

2009 vs. 2008 997.1: Only significant difference is PCM - put a Dension in your 2008 and that would solve this issue. Not as good as OEM of course, but allows you to use the cell phone and ipod, which are key. As someone said above, take this car, immediately! For a forever car :-) you want PCCB (in addition to everything else of the Turbo of course). You also want a manual if you are a manual die-hard since Porsche is not making it anymore in near future. The PCCB is a big factor; take it and find out why braking is as important as accelerating in an all out sports car. That the car is local to you and so pristine is another plus.

2010 vs. 2008 & 2009 (997.2 vs. 997.1): OP is NOT asking about 997.2, but since it has been brought up: PDK vs. manual, no right or wrong. PDK is faster but manual is a lot more "engaging" to some people (see thousands of posts on this LOL) and the PDK car could feel boring to some (not all) people. Note that the "fastness" of PDK is more obvious in all-out racing from a standing stop, with multiple lower gear shifts; at higher gears and in less than all out driving, in other words 99% of the time, it is much less obvious - PDK and manual feel equally fast. Also, in any particular gear, say cruising in 3rd, 4th, or 5th gears, the 2 cars feel the same. I have both (Porsche manual and BMW PDK) and have driven 997.2 PDK, and would take manual over PDK, but that's just me. If you are a manual die-hard, buying a PDK car to experiment *might* be a most expensive mistake - don't. There is a subjective (IOW YMMV) feel of connection to the car that is missing in a PDK car.

Suspension wise, 2010 is better, but not by much; still very soft and still could benefit from some firming up. A 2009 with good suspension mod will be much better than a 2010 in the curves still.

The 2010 car is "better' only in the sense that it's a newer car, as in a 2014 car is better than a 2007 car, but you of course will pay for this newness. If you don't care about PDK, then it offers no significant advantage. For example I would take a PCCB 2009 over a 2010 without PCCB. Lastly, there is this thing about the Mezger engine of 997.1 if you are into modding the engine - here 997.1 offers undisputed advantage - but that's a topic for another day. Bottom line: All Turbo's are great, including 2010 PDK, but a manual Mezger 997.1 Turbo will prove to be one of the most desirable Turbo's ever made - all things considered. It is without any doubt a "forever" car and the last of a special Mezger breed - jump on it.

 

Cannga - I would like to personally "Thank You" for your insights and lots of advices on my first 997TT, I am actually was looking for 997.2, but after all the info online here and rennlist, I decided to go with 997.1 for the legendary Mezger engine. I think this engine has a special place in Porsche history. I was a hardcore BMW guy, but after my first 911 I am hooked and prolly won't buy any other sport car brand. I looked at F430, Gallardo but they are too flashy and has potential to drain my bank account even to fix minor things.
So here it is my very first 2008 997.1 Turbo, she still a virgin with 9800 on the clock, two owners, zero overrev, never seen the track (no track here in Hawaii). She was always an island car. I will post more pix when I got the forge wheels, exhaust, and Dectane lights on another thread.

 

Congrats! She is a beauty!

 

Can't go wrong with a low mile PCCB car

 

Congrats ! Great buy !!

2008 and 2009 are equal beside PCM3.
There are some part numbers that have changed but Porsche does that constantly between MY. I remember reading a rear light module is different. People who modify the .1 to look like the .2 in the rear have to buy different module depending if it is a 07/08 or 09.
But there is no difference in appearance between 07/08 and 09 beside the already mentioned PCM3.

My story : in 2012 I bought a 2008 997T. But I started out looking for a 2009 only. But I could not find a 2009 like I wanted. Plenty to be had but none with PCCB (deal breaker) and some other goodies I liked.

When the 2008 came online with my dream spec and color I bought it within 24h and could not be happier.
I still keep checking the (EU) market for a 2009 and would be ready to 'upgrade' if the 'right car' came along but so far that has not happened and the older they get the more likely I will be keeping my '08 for ever.

Cannga , wise words spoken !

 

Gorgeous AND pristine! Congrats. I *really* *REALLY* like the fact that this PCCB Turbo is low mileage and un-modified - you are essentially getting a new car. It's very similar to my car, except I remember the check I wrote was equal to 30% down payment for an average house in Los Angeles at the time (ouch).

These samples of low mileage manual Mezger Turbo's are becoming rarer and rarer with time (obviously). As I have said many times, like a broken record: manual Mezger with PCCB - rare and desireable animal! Notice how many owners are saying they plan to keep this car "forever" :-).

What a "Christmas" gift. Drive safely and I am sure you already know, but worth repeating: "slow in fast out"; always important but especially important for a rear engine car as powerful as this.
Thanks guys for the kind words; we are all so passionate about our Turbo :-).

 

Gotgolf52- Beautiful car, nice find - I got my 07 TT about 2 yrs ago from dealer at great price- Hope to see you around town- we'll have to meet up sometime-

 

IIR the PCCB stop in a feet more feet than non pccb but they dont fade on the track.

 

I live in Kaka'ako, anytime you wanna meet up lmk. Are you a PCA member?

 

I've looked through a lot of documentation on the 997.2 TT and have never seen a reference to improved VTG turbos...maybe I missed it - can you supply your source? Thanks.

 

Excellence #179 page 76, read all about the 2010 before trading in my 07 on the 2010 a few years ago. There was also some info in the December 2009 issue of Panorama.