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Old Jul 13, 2015 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by IbanezGod
Were you AutoXing?
no i got up too late... i went after the local CnC....
 
Old Jul 14, 2015 | 08:37 PM
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It's sorta like

trying to fly a 747 in a barn. The front end pushes a lot in slow corners, the boost takes a while to build and once it does, it's time to shut off for the next corner, and the crazy acceleration rate tends to lead to over-braking. It's best to keep it on boost and modulate the throttle carefully, maintaining speed and momentum, rather than doing a crazy off/on/off/on going into heavy boost and then survival braking.
 
Old Jul 16, 2015 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by IbanezGod
hmm i'll have to check my avatar, i had a 997 there i thought Yes this was organized by the NNJR PCA, that instructor is one of the old timers in the club. Thanks for the compliment, car is a beauty. Go for GR or SY, too many blacks and greys out there.

The 991 GT3 at the event was running 52's when I ran a 55, so for what it is I know three seconds is a lot, i'm a novice, that driver was an instructor in a new GT3
Oh haha. I thought it was the rear navy/cf trunk on a 993 Turbo and the red was the long 993 taillights

Originally Posted by YJosephTT
I saw your car later in the afternoon, looks like you were doing pretty good.
How many in your class? One thing I do like about the Porsche Auto-X is its easier to rank high as there are so many categories for Porsches alone


I guess MrNurse didn't race...
I'm out for this reason. My helmet and gloves are collecting dust

Originally Posted by IbanezGod
Were you AutoXing? I started off my first run at 61 ,then got down to 59, 57, 56, and 55 (seconds) on my last run. Few spots I just simply couldn't find the line and know I could have chopped off a couple more seconds. But I ran with the instructor who had the new GT3 and he said I was doing great and hitting a lot of spots very well...he gave me a few pointers and I shaved off that 0.5 second I was looking for to get down to 55.
Very nice! I'm curious to everyone's times and what they were driving. I'll look it up lol. Maybe I'll see you next year if you still decide to AutoX

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trying to fly a 747 in a barn. The front end pushes a lot in slow corners, the boost takes a while to build and once it does, it's time to shut off for the next corner, and the crazy acceleration rate tends to lead to over-braking. It's best to keep it on boost and modulate the throttle carefully, maintaining speed and momentum, rather than doing a crazy off/on/off/on going into heavy boost and then survival braking.
Yes, that's what I was thinking on all accounts. :Thumbsup:
 
Old Jul 17, 2015 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by elite1
A turbo setup correctly can easily outrun GT3's. The only issue I have found is, that it will cost more to do it!
An S2000, in stock form, with a DAMN GOOD driver, can tear up a turbo and a GT3 with average-good drivers a new one.

Autox is 90% driver, 10% car. Remember that.
 
Old Jul 18, 2015 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by IbanezGod
most of all the above look to be driver error, which is expected
Its a gtr commercial. the Oversteer is induced
 
Old Jul 19, 2015 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by eviligloo
I've been autocrossing my turbo this year alternating between two different PCA events in my area. One setup is in a tight parking lot and the other is at a stadium parking lot. If you can get over the pride of being beaten by miatas and caymans all day then it's a fun time.

What most people say is true. Turbos are definitely NOT set up for autocross. By the time you hit boost you have to brake (which is still true even if you get a tune). My car is tuned to give you more power down lower than a stock turbo and it still doesn't help.

Here are the reasons it doesn't work as well:
1. Heavy AWD
2. Auto-x is done in second gear
3. Hitting boost is almost a curse because you start going so fast right before you have to turn and have to slam on brakes to compensate. None of the courses I've run have had wide open sections like the first video you posted
4. You normally don't hit boost so you use very little of all that power you have
5. Autocross is about being smooth so having boost kick in suddenly is not to your advantage

Caymans and boxsters are MUCH better for it. I get beaten by stock base level caymans all day. Do I care? Maybe a little. It's a little embarrassing/frustrating when your turbo gets smoked by a modified Subaru Forester wagon (which happened to me last autocross). As long as you adjust your expectations it can still be fun.
+1 Spot on!
 
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