I cringe when I see stuff like this posted. Adams car is a beast and it whoops ***. But people get carried away way too much (seems like every brand forum is guilty of this). No 700hp Porsche is beating 1000hp awd cars in a real 1/2 race. Half of those videos look like the launch was aborted by the other car due to traction, that's normal. Also that's not a 220whp s1000rr. People have no idea what a 220whp bike is. My 192rwhp s1000rr runs consistent 9.4@156 and murders my 700whp 997tt, no Porsche below 1800hp is beating a 220whp s1000rr with a good rider. The video with the old Ducati clearly shows rider (not a very skilled one) shifting to 2nd, front comes up and he lets off as front slams back down. Then he gets on it again and catches up.

 

Agree with the RR statement!! (BTW I do not think, Adam thinks he took out a 220RWHP RR, but he is just showing the runs in glorious entertainment for us gear heads!!)

These newer litre bikes are in a league over their couple of year older counter parts, let alone street cars & let alone when these things are modded! These newer litre bikes you need 1200+RWHP to even hang with them let alone beat them! Older litres were in the 136-142 & bang all of a sudden the next gen and they are coming 150+++ STOCK!!

I have witnessed and cruised with some of the older litres and a newer RR and there is no comparison!! We have a RR that comes out sometimes when we hit the streets with light mods/stretched. The only cars we line up with him are 150+trap cars.

Here is a vid in Toronto with a 6Speed member & another Supra owner I know. The person that edit the vid inflated the numbers as the Supra has about 1250RWHP(not 1400) and the UGR Lambo running at 1600AWHP (not 2000). Notice how the 900+AWHP GTR couldn't deal with the RR & other bikes and how even 1200RWHP supra couldn't come around the RR:


AGAIN THIS TAKE NOTHING AWAY FROM ADAM'S ACCOMPLISHMENTS !

 

Look if someone wants to do a half mile roll race against a modded RR or a 1,000 HP GTR with their bolt-on 997.2 obviously they are going to get crushed. After seeing this video I don't think that changes anyone's mind.
But, you gotta run your car in the conditions provided. This is mainly a race from a sanding start on a pretty bad surface. There is sand and asphalt rocks and other debris and a painted slippery surface on the launch pad which plays perfectly into the hand of a rear-engine PDK with low power.


I didn't pick the place. But I certainly knew it was going to be more slippery than usual since it had just rained and was colder than previous events. After I almost spun off the track on my first run, I changed by launch technique. Everyone was complaining about traction and others were also changing their launch techniques. And I can assure you no one was aborting races. They were doing the best they could in the circumstances.


Oh and you are right. The RR isn't 220 wheel HP. It's actually 223. Owned by my buddy Troy Gleason. He was saying the throttle was very sensitive because of the cams and as a result had a hard time launching. He spun and went a bit sideways which cost him a couple ticks. And that was enough for me to build a large enough lead to overcome.

 

With conditions like that and from a dig, it is a PDK'S 997 TURBOS playing field!!!

Adam, considering the BBI 997.2 was fully built 4.0 motor!!, upgraded turbo's, upgraded PDK, What happen with their mid range?

You kept pulling them up only until the end of the run. I would figure a car like yours , but now fully built would leave you for dead as it is the same killer platform?

 

Hey Bobby, whats up my friend. So I was standing near the Lambo driver and his buddy for like 10-15 minutes as we waited for the roll race portion of the event to start. They kept talking about spraying and I sort of keyed into their conversation which clearly seemed to me they were talking about a small shot nitrous system on their car. So I don't know for sure, but otherwise if they didn't the conversation would have been very strange.

Regarding the BBI car, it's clearly not making a lot more power than my car until the triple digits. I think it's a function of the fact that my car makes a lot of power until the EGTs heat up from my cats and then the car starts dropping power. But that's probably not until 120+mph. I bet if I went catless my car would trap 5mph on the top end. But would not be any faster from 0-120mph.I sort of proved this out with some vBox testing I did. My 100-200kph is 4.9 yet I can't get faster than 6.0 seconds in the 60-130. Most people have a 0.7 second delta between the 100-200 and 60-130 at these power levels but I'm up to 1.0 seconds. To get in the 4's 100-200 the car must be making more like 650 wheel but once EGTs heat up it probably drops to 600 or less, slowing the rate of acceleration.

 

This isn't just about the HP the car or bike is putting down. Adam's car works together as a package...just enough power combined with PDK/launch control..efficiency.
Driver also has A LOT to do with it on the bikes and manual cars as mentioned. ..and the best manual driver in the world isn't going to shift as fast as a PDK.
1200 HP is worthless if the driver sucks or if the car isn't capable of putting the power to the ground. The lower HP car that works better as a package will have the advantage over a higher HP car that isn't as efficient.
Porsche did an awesome job of making this car work as a package.

 

very nice video running strong and dominant from a dig well done you're probably the least car with mods

 

Agree with Adam.....You can preach stats and expertise all day long. But everyone dealt with the same conditions and Adam's car clearly smoked them. It is funny to argue with something you clearly see with your own eyes.

Kinda reminds me when I was a powerlifter and football player in high school. Had not grown in to my 6'4" frame yet in 10th grade.....at the meets, the big muscle guys would come up and were sure they would win cuz the had short arms with bigger muscles....then I would bench 315 lbs. and they would start with the excuses....but I still won! As a defensive end I would put the bigger O linemen on their @sses, they were bigger, and had more mass, and statistically should beat me.....but there I was....killing their QB.....haha

Thanks again for posting Adam....Good stuff.

DC

 

Deadliest 997.2 from a standstill I have seen thus far. I've been watching Adam's car for a very long time. Car is nailed down almost to a science. Congrats man.

 

Agreed!

 

Cheers guys.


Also uploaded a slightly new video (different music) as the original song that was part of the video had some restrictions.

 

hey Adam great stuff man
I notice that you are shifting manually with the paddles on sport plus mode.
Is this quicker than using the factory shifting program that shifts at redline in every gear?
just curious....Mike

 

It doesn't shift quicker by pulling the paddle. Shifts just as quick if I let the computer do it.

Using launch control I let the computer shift into second gear (because I'm not quick enough Ron shift it myself) but I manually shift every gear thereafter. It's because the small fuel system in this car - it accelerates faster by short shifting in my case with my tune.