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Old May 25, 2017 | 12:07 PM
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I am going to tread lightly before listing it. Once this thing goes online it will get trashed no matter what price I ask. As I said, I just sold a car and the word nightmare comes to mind so I am more than a little hesitant. I think it's worth $75-$78k but will bide my time.
 
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Porsche buyers are a weird bunch. Ive bought/sold almost every type of exotic below $300K and porsche buyers are by far the most picky. I remember selling a 10 year old 996 turbo for $40K and had guys show up for weeks on end and nitpick every rock chip and try to offer me $25k. Then ive sold $200K exotics to the first or second person that showed up made sure the car started and handed me a check hah.
 
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I would guess you could get between 72-75k. I am also amazed to see what 996'she are going for. There is no way I'd pay 60k for a 996 when I could get a newer car, better technology, more room and IMO better looks for just a few thousand more! GLWS!!
 
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Is your interior 'stone grey' or 'dark natural grey' ?
If the latter it was a cost option that looks very much like the black leather Porsche offers. But the 'natural leather' is of much higher quality so should be a +.
 
Old May 29, 2017 | 02:25 PM
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How about a recent data point: my car. I bought a 2008 tt cab with manual tranny in early March of this year. MSRP on the car was $149k. Car was a 2 owner, 32k miles, and in pristine condition. Only thing I had to do to the car was replace the 8 year old bra which had begun to deteriorate. The paint is 100% original without a single scratch or chip. Honestly, the car was so much better than represented. Car had had its 24k service. Tires are about 80%. I ended up paying $70,500 for the car. The new bra was $1350. I looked for about 4 months before finding this one. The negatives (in some peoples eyes) are that it is a cab, and the color is not black on black. The color is Midnight Blue with a natural leather interior. So, if you have a pristine 2007 coupe with manual tranny with 18k miles on it, I have to believe that it should sell for close to $75k. I suggest advertising it for $77k - $78k.
 
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With that low of mileage, I would hold onto the car if you can. It's a Mezger manual coupe, with collector miles. If the 996 TTs are approaching the value of the 997 TTs, then the 997 TTs may be at the bottom of the depreciation curve.

A similar thing has happened in the aircooled market. The NA 964s became relative values to the 993s and they have increased in value to the point where their is little difference betweeen the two cars prices. (note: 964 3.6 turbos are different due to being scarce*) So, I believe that there is a demand push that may occur for the 993s due to the increase in value of the 964s that may be the same for the 997 TTs relative to the stated increase in value of the 996 TTs. At some point, the market should realize the relative value of the 997 TTs to the 996 TTs and increased demand should push the 997 TT price higher.

The aircooled frenzie started with the 993s and was lead by the TTs, as the price gap widened as compared to earlier 993s, the other aircooled values were pulled up by the 993s. Eventually the narrowing price differences should push the value of the 993s higher.

As an owner of a 993 TT, I am extremely biased!

*From Wikipedia: "Porsche released the 964 Turbo 3.6 in January, 1993,[3] now featuring a turbocharged version of the 3.6 litre M64 engine and producing 359.95 PS (264.74 kW; 355.03 hp) @ 5500 rpm, the 3.6 litre powered Turbo was produced only for model year 1993/1994, with fewer than 1,500 of them produced in total, making it one of the rarest and most sought after Porsches produced since the 959."
 
Old May 31, 2017 | 09:00 AM
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I think I am going to hold on to it for a while longer as I just cannot go through the sales experience again. The interior is Natural Leather Grey which is option code 05. I've been toying with getting another 930 or going N/A with a 964 or 993 but I can't handle the stress of selling again.
 
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Natural grey is basically black, I had it in my 05 Turbo S. It's an awesome interior - no hit on the value there. Slate is one of the coolest colors on a turbo, pretty rare too.

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The 996's have risen in value partially due to all of the press regarding them as being the "best value" for the money given their take it or leave it styling.

I paid $74K for my car last year with 33K miles. A year later the guy who sold it to me wanted to buy it back. When I declined, he bought another .1 6speed turbo for just under 80K. It was midnight blue HRE's, Techart, and some cool options.

I've also been propositioned a few times by different people wanting to buy it. Mine is Cobalt, which is a take it or leave it color to many.

If you sell your car for less than $75K, you are giving it away.

The 6 speed cars are going to continue to go up in the future. Air cooled #'s? no way.

but as long as Porsche doesnt put a manual gearbox back in the new "9## Turbo' it should be money in the bank.
 
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The 997 Gt2rs is regarded by many collectors as the best drivers car in the past decade. Now if you consider that you can basically convert any 6sp 997turbo to near Gt2 specs with just boltons in 1 weekend....
 
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Originally Posted by 997TTEQNY
but as long as Porsche doesnt put a manual gearbox back in the new "9## Turbo' it should be money in the bank.
In my opinion, I don't think Porsche would put a manual gearbox in the new 911 Turbo S because it would be cost-prohibitive.

The 997.2 TT & GT2RS both had 516 lb-ft of peak torque and the manual gearbox. The outgoing 911R and upcoming 991.2 GT3 both have only 338 lb-ft of peak torque with a manual gearbox. The 991.2 GTS only puts out 405 lb-ft peak torque with its 7-speed manual. The Carrera GT only put out 435 lb-ft of peak torque.

The 991 Turbo S has quite a bit of peak torque at 553 lb-ft. Porsche has never had a manual gearbox in the marketplace proven to be reliable with that level of torque. It's likely that the manual gearbox that they used for the 997.2 TT is the last manual gearbox they'll implement for the Turbo.
 

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Even outside of technical limitations, I feel the Turbos now are pretty clearly delineated as the grand tourer of the lineup, for which the PDK is perfectly suited. Take rates on a 992 Turbo 7mt would probably be low single digits.
 
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^^ Valid points.

The younger generation also has no interest in them.
 
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Originally Posted by pdxm5
The 997 Gt2rs is regarded by many collectors as the best drivers car in the past decade. Now if you consider that you can basically convert any 6sp 997turbo to near Gt2 specs with just boltons in 1 weekend....
that is pretty crazy when you think about it. poor man's GT2/RS can be built very easily.

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Even outside of technical limitations, I feel the Turbos now are pretty clearly delineated as the grand tourer of the lineup, for which the PDK is perfectly suited. Take rates on a 992 Turbo 7mt would probably be low single digits.
agreed, this is the real reason imo. Porsche has pretty clearly defined the various roles the current 911 variants need to fill and is speccing them to suit.
 
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Even outside of technical limitations, I feel the Turbos now are pretty clearly delineated as the grand tourer of the lineup, for which the PDK is perfectly suited. Take rates on a 992 Turbo 7mt would probably be low single digits.
I get that the Turbos are softer than the GT3, but to call the Turbo a GT is kind of a stretch, isn't it?

The Turbo is a suspension upgrade away from being a GT3 beater. Or at least, that's what has been portrayed here. If this is true, it's really hard to justify the ridiculous prices of the GT3 in comparison to the Turbo.
 


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