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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 01:02 PM
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Well...basically everything that FVD 3 kit has plus MONSTER IC...dynoed over 600 hp on Mustang Dyno...

This is just for reference regarding US and EU tuners all other them are diffirent...some car with simaler kits perform like no other...I think to get best reustls each need to be dyno tuned and road tested to get most power out of it...
 
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I have the AWE ic's and it really made a difference, especially at high speeds.

Any internal stuff?

I've always been thinking that US tuners are a little optimistic about their hp gain, my friend has been told by FVD that it's not possible to get more than 640-650 hp until you modify the internal parts of the motor. I don't know if that's true, that's just what they say.
 
Old Nov 2, 2008 | 09:25 AM
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NO internal staff and I dont really care about dyno results as long the car showing this performance data...those times speak for themselves
 
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I can't agree more.
 
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Originally Posted by 997ttguru
I got FVD stage 2 in my car now and it performs really close to AWE 700 kit (0-100 3.2 , 100-200 6.5)

I'll upgrade to stage 3 soon, that should be better than any 700 kit in US market.
Can u post the acceleration sheet from ur VBOX?
 
Old Nov 2, 2008 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 997ttguru
I got FVD stage 2 in my car now and it performs really close to AWE 700 kit (0-100 3.2 , 100-200 6.5)

I'll upgrade to stage 3 soon, that should be better than any 700 kit in US market.
The AWE stage 2 car with the stock VTG's and stock intercoolers (exhaust and ECU flash only)did 100-200kph in 6.5s. If anything, I would say the FVD software may not generate the power of the GIAC software.




The AWE 700 car with the bigger VTG's does 100-200kph in 6.0s

 
Old Nov 3, 2008 | 03:00 PM
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shotcaller :

I'll do it, i need a usb card reader

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i see only red dots instead of pictures, but it seems pretty hard to believe that you did 6.5 just with ecu and exhaust upgrade..
 
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i see only red dots instead of pictures, but it seems pretty hard to believe that you did 6.5 just with ecu and exhaust upgrade..
I believe he was running on race fuel for that run.
 
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In Turkey, our best chance is Shell 100 Octane fuel. It's like US regular fuel. All these runs was with that, so it's not fair to compare unless both sides use same fuel. I guess I can run at least 0.2 seconds better with race fuel.
 
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Originally Posted by 997ttguru
In Turkey, our best chance is Shell 100 Octane fuel. It's like US regular fuel. All these runs was with that, so it's not fair to compare unless both sides use same fuel. I guess I can run at least 0.2 seconds better with race fuel.
It looks like your car is a tip. We cannot really compare tip times to 6spd times either, since shift points and number of shifts are different. That being said, I see your car did 60-130mph in 8.2s (no shifts)



the AWE stage 2 kit on a 6spd did 60-130mph in 7.7s (1 shift)

 
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EDIT: In short tuners in Europe don't rate their hp as high as in US.
Not true. I've measured many 60-130 runs from euro-tuned cars and the large majority of their HP figures fall right in line with the times. Same goes for the US tuned cars. Honestly, the main difference between the two (US and Europe) is that the US cars are normally faster.

Too bad Porsche tuners in Europe don't drive the 1/4 mile so there would be a proof of this for you guys
No need for it. We have plenty of 60-130 runs to compare already. 60-130 times do not lie.
 
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eclou ; Yes my car is a tip. But that was one of my "bad" runs (we have done several tries)according to the 100-200 km/h run, i did not do 60-130 mph run before. My average of 100-200 km/h is around 6.8, worst 7.3 - 7.4, best 6.6. (I have seen 6.5 on the same highway, same conditions, but my friend couldnt find the dat file on pbox even though it is registered on the notepad file.) And all of those is with 100 octane. not race fuel

And I'm sorry but I don't believe you could have run 7.7 all the time with the stage 2, as i can not run 6.6 all the time as i have told, my average is 6.8 generally, 7 and upper means a bad run.
 

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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
Not true. I've measured many 60-130 runs from euro-tuned cars and the large majority of their HP figures fall right in line with the times. Same goes for the US tuned cars. Honestly, the main difference between the two (US and Europe) is that the US cars are normally faster.



No need for it. We have plenty of 60-130 runs to compare already. 60-130 times do not lie.
I highly doubt that.. I'm going to purchase FVD Stage 3 kit this month and I'll do many acceleration tests, it'd be good if eclou or any other awe 700 kit owner do the same tests (with an equivalent fuel that we have), so we can clearly see who is the winner
 
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Originally Posted by 997ttguru
I highly doubt that.. I'm going to purchase FVD Stage 3 kit this month and I'll do many acceleration tests, it'd be good if eclou or any other awe 700 kit owner do the same tests (with an equivalent fuel that we have), so we can clearly see who is the winner
Doubt it all you want. I've got the files to prove it.

By the way, if you want to keep up with the US 700 HP cars...you'll have to do MUCH better than a 8.2 60-130. Mid to high 6's is what's required to compete. Good luck!
 
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My average of 100-200 km/h is around 6.8, worst 7.3 - 7.4, best 6.6.

so there's the same situation with 60-130 too, it's clear enough, isn't it?

I'm confident that I'll reach 6.0 seconds 100-200 when I move to FVD Stage 3 without the race fuel
 


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