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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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With the overboost disabled, I really wouldn't show my face around here for some time until the GT2 is out
 
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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Cd of a GT3 is 0.29, the Z06 is 0.34. Frontal area of the Gt3 is smaller also. Makes for a big difference in drag
 
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SRW
Ok.......

997 TT (Sport button off) vs Z06 from roll

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ByYfgb0N3Q
AHA, YES!! One set of lights are definately ahead of the other ones! Looked like the first car was modded though, so not really a fair race...
 
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SRW
Ok.......

997 TT (Sport button off) vs Z06 from roll

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ByYfgb0N3Q
Come on, that was a turbo Beetle vs a Cavalier with a fart can exhaust. It's obvious from the video.
 
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Vicious
Not THAT much difference. Considering the substantial power and torque difference, coupled with the higher terminal velocity of the Z, what makes anyone think a GT3 will be able to run down a 2 sec deficit by 125.. and put another 10 seconds on it from 125 to 188... Thats just obscene.
The difference of drag is not going to be apparent until after 150mph or so. Drag increases as a cubed factor of velocity. Consider that the GT3 RS is faster than the regular GT3 until about 150mph, then the better aero of the GT3 allows it to pull away from an RS.

The Cd of the Z06 is .34, frontal area 22.3 sqft. The Cd of the Gt3 is .29, frontal area is 21.9 sqft. At 200kph (124mph) the Z06 needs 110.2hp to overcome drag, GT3 needs 94.7 hp to overcome drag. At 300kph (186mph) the Z06 needs 354.4 hp to overcome drag, GT3 needs 302.2 hp to overcome drag. You can see how the higher the speeds, the smaller the Z06 hp advantage becomes. The Z06 is 6-7 seconds faster still from 0-186 than the Gt3.
 
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 07:44 PM
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I agree that the Gt3 cannot catch the Z06, but disagree that the drag between the 2 is insignificant. If the LS7 was put in the regular Corvette body (Cd 0.28) you would see that car accelerating to 186 mph in FGT or CGT times.
 
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IMO I wont mess w/ a Mustang. I have had two GT's and a modded Cobra back in the day. It is simply a hierchy issue. I wont bring myself down to the level of the basic baseball hat backward, crappy music blasting, MOROSO bumper sticker , sterotype guy mustang owner. When I was in high school , different story.

The pos ford is fast, big deal. A kid down my street has an old 5.0 LX Notchback that puts out god knows what hp, do I want it ? uhh no.

The Porsche TT's /Lambos/F cars rule the road. Then you have the
2 nd tier cars like the ///M's/AMG/RS4's /Z06

Then various VW's STI/EVOs/C6

Bottom feeders are the mustangs, eclipse, civics, etc

It doesnt matter how you slice it, that is the way it is.

Congrats on your kill bro, now its time for you to head back to the trailer park to dazzle the rest of your white trash, budweiser swilling hicks before heading back to work tomarrow at some stamping factory or rendering plant.
kthxb
 
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Vanishing Point
IMO I wont mess w/ a Mustang. I have had two GT's and a modded Cobra back in the day. It is simply a hierchy issue. I wont bring myself down to the level of the basic baseball hat backward, crappy music blasting, MOROSO bumper sticker , sterotype guy mustang owner. When I was in high school , different story.

The pos ford is fast, big deal. A kid down my street has an old 5.0 LX Notchback that puts out god knows what hp, do I want it ? uhh no.

The Porsche TT's /Lambos/F cars rule the road. Then you have the
2 nd tier cars like the ///M's/AMG/RS4's /Z06

Then various VW's STI/EVOs/C6

Bottom feeders are the mustangs, eclipse, civics, etc

It doesnt matter how you slice it, that is the way it is.

Congrats on your kill bro, now its time for you to head back to the trailer park to dazzle the rest of your white trash, budweiser swilling hicks before heading back to work tomarrow at some stamping factory or rendering plant.
kthxb
This post is an all time low for 6speedonline.com

From start to finish.
 
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
This post is an all time low for 6speedonline.com

From start to finish.
agreed. The question is, is it ban worthy, just due to the association.
 
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 09:13 PM
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Dez, I agree.

David, yes.
 
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Originally Posted by Jimbo
Dez, I agree.

David, yes.


When are we racing Jim? I want 3 cars and the hit.
 
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Vanishing Point
IMO I wont mess w/ a Mustang. I have had two GT's and a modded Cobra back in the day. It is simply a hierchy issue. I wont bring myself down to the level of the basic baseball hat backward, crappy music blasting, MOROSO bumper sticker , sterotype guy mustang owner. When I was in high school , different story.

The pos ford is fast, big deal. A kid down my street has an old 5.0 LX Notchback that puts out god knows what hp, do I want it ? uhh no.

The Porsche TT's /Lambos/F cars rule the road. Then you have the
2 nd tier cars like the ///M's/AMG/RS4's /Z06

Then various VW's STI/EVOs/C6

Bottom feeders are the mustangs, eclipse, civics, etc

It doesnt matter how you slice it, that is the way it is.

Congrats on your kill bro, now its time for you to head back to the trailer park to dazzle the rest of your white trash, budweiser swilling hicks before heading back to work tomarrow at some stamping factory or rendering plant.
kthxb
I think that was pretty uncalled for. Even if thats how you feel, why waste your time typing out a bunch of negative comments.
 
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dgussin1


When are we racing Jim? I want 3 cars and the hit.
I don't race.....






















 
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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I think that was pretty uncalled for. Even if thats how you feel, why waste your time typing out a bunch of negative comments.
you have a sick stable of cars!
 
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 09:56 PM
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Great kill, dgussin!

It's a compliment to post, because the TT is worthy! Great speedo vids. I've got a KB on my L and I think you'll love it.
 


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