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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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Bill, just curious, what are you using the #0000 steel wool for?
A local detailer told me that the wool #0000 works great in removing water spots and really stubborn spots on the windshield (only the outside!)
 
Old Sep 23, 2007 | 07:05 PM
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Actually, Meguiar's NXT glass cleaner is very good, too. I don't like the rest of the NXT line, but the glass cleaner works very well.

Stoner Invisible Glass is also excellent, but really no better than NXT (IMO).

Eagle One 20/20 always worked very well for me, but the last bottle I bought was bad.. it streaked terribly. I never bought it again.
 
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I used stoners the other day for the first time and it streaked. Am I applying too much? I used a microfibre towel, and then tried with newspaper(as per the bottle recommendations) and it worked better, but not as goos as I expected. Have any of you used on the inside with tints?
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Originally Posted by cayenned
I used stoners the other day for the first time and it streaked. Am I applying too much? I used a microfibre towel, and then tried with newspaper(as per the bottle recommendations) and it worked better, but not as goos as I expected. Have any of you used on the inside with tints?
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streaked for me, too.
 
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If it streaked then you had really dirty glass and a second application would have cleared it up. As for wool, never heard that. I use glass polish on the outside. Zaino is the brand I've been using lately. But before that, I had a bottle of RainX brand glass polish that lasted a couple of years.
 
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As far as i know #0000 steel wool is no different than very fine sandpaper. I personally would never use it on my car or my windows. Try clay first (much less abrasive) or even a window polish. Remember Porsche windows are treated at the factory so be carefull how you clean them. Porsche sells an interior window cleaner to use on the inside only...must be the outside that gets the treatment at the factory? One more thing, for those of you with window treatments.........do not use clay, a mild glass cleaner and a soft clean microfiber towel work best for me. Newspaper will scratch the film so avoid it.
 

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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 07:40 AM
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Stoner's is a great glass cleaner. What I use is the Meguiar's Detailer Line Glass Cleaner. The trick though is using a high quality microfiber towel. Also, just like the paint needs to be polished routinely, so does the glass. You should consider getting a glass polish such as Autoglym Glass Polish. You won't believe how crystal clear the glass will be. It's great for removing stubborn water spots as well.
 
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I've never had it streak, but try a second cleaning. Clean cloths are the key too. And not too much spray!
 
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Originally Posted by MoeMistry
You should consider getting a glass polish such as Autoglym Glass Polish. You won't believe how crystal clear the glass will be. It's great for removing stubborn water spots as well.
I agree with Moe, glass polish is great and also with Eric, clean cloths (microfibers) and use the spray cleaner sparingly.
 
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+12 (or whatever # we're on) Stoner's Invisible glass is great. I haven't had any streaking issues. Make sure the towel you use is clean. If the glass is really dirty, it will streak also. Use another clean towel and clean it a second or third time.
 
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I've got 7 or 8 products on my shelf and they all have worked. I'm currently using Mothers Glass Cleaner, because it specifically said it was OK to use on tinted films.

For getting the inside of the back window clean there is a tool sold by Griots P/N 90247 @ $22.99. If you stay up until 3 AM, you probably can get the same thing off of the TV for half price plus you may get a set of steak knives as a bonus.
 
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Larry I also have Griots window tool and its worth its weight in glass. Seriously, it gets in those crevices both on front and rear windows. You know what happens when it time to condition the leather? Without this tool you'll never get down into the front windows lower edge (the one you got the leather conditioner all over when you treated the dashboard)? Before I got my windows tinted I had a heck of a time keeping the interior windows streak free. Must be the stuff Porsche uses to treat the glass? You have a PM.
 
Old Sep 25, 2007 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by gradyex
Larry I also have Griots window tool and its worth its weight in glass. Seriously, it gets in those crevices both on front and rear windows. You know what happens when it time to condition the leather? Without this tool you'll never get down into the front windows lower edge (the one you got the leather conditioner all over when you treated the dashboard)? Before I got my windows tinted I had a heck of a time keeping the interior windows streak free. Must be the stuff Porsche uses to treat the glass? You have a PM.

Why would you put leather conditioner on the dash ? Porsche leather dash is specially "dried" so that it does not need leather treatment. You're better off just dusting lightly with distilled water and microfiber.

Oh, and #0000 steel wool (NOT any higher grade) will absolutely not scratch window glass. Check Guru reports on "Glass Cleaning" for a detailed description and ranking of glass cleaners (BTW, Stoners finished # 3)

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Originally Posted by Bill in Atlanta
Why would you put leather conditioner on the dash ? Porsche leather dash is specially "dried" so that it does not need leather treatment. You're better off just dusting lightly with distilled water and microfiber.

Oh, and #0000 steel wool (NOT any higher grade) will absolutely not scratch window glass. Check Guru reports on "Glass Cleaning" for a detailed description and ranking of glass cleaners (BTW, Stoners finished # 3)

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To my knowledge, the dash on a Porsche has no special treatment that renders it not needing conditioning. It needs to be conditioned just like the rest of the car. Bill, where may I ask did you get the info on "dried" leather on a Porsche? I'd like to look into that. I may be incorrect, but I've never heard of this.

Also, as far as Guru Report goes, these reports have no validity in most arenas. The integrity of their tests went out the window for me when they conducted their Wax test. For example, they showed a picture of every wax except for zymol. Their reasoning was that they used up all the wax in the jar for their test panel. Well, anyone that has used zymol knows that each container will do a minimum of 50 full-car applications. And as most everyone on this thread has replied, Stoner's is pretty good stuff. I'd say the best report should be word of mouth on boards like this; not a group of guys that were bored one day and decided to run their own tests and make money off of their publications. My 2 cents.<O></O>
 
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To my knowledge, the dash on a Porsche has no special treatment that renders it not needing conditioning. It needs to be conditioned just like the rest of the car. Bill, where may I ask did you get the info on "dried" leather on a Porsche? I'd like to look into that. I may be incorrect, but I've never heard of this.

Also, as far as Guru Report goes, these reports have no validity in most arenas. The integrity of their tests went out the window for me when they conducted their Wax test. For example, they showed a picture of every wax except for zymol. Their reasoning was that they used up all the wax in the jar for their test panel. Well, anyone that has used zymol knows that each container will do a minimum of 50 full-car applications. And as most everyone on this thread has replied, Stoner's is pretty good stuff. I'd say the best report should be word of mouth on boards like this; not a group of guys that were bored one day and decided to run their own tests and make money off of their publications. My 2 cents.<O></O>

As a Zymol retailer, I can understand how you would not like the Guru reports. For me, it's like most things, a point of reference. I must say that the items they rated highly (ie, Zaino, P21s Carnauba, Sprayway Glass cleaner) do indeed work pretty well, and are highly respected by most "detail" enthusiast (again, a point of reference would be Autopia.org, where the items listed above have a pretty good reputation).

As far as the dash, I was like you....being leather, I thought it should be treated (and I DID treat the dash in my 996 TT many times), however I was first told by fellow 6speeder (and Atlanta resident) "Dock" that the leather was "pre-shrunk" (?) so as to not dry/crack and should NOT be treated. Like you, I was unsure, but checked with PCNA and several other members and confirmed this. To me, it DOES seem counter-intuitive to NOT treat the dash, but I've seen Docks's car with no treatment ever and it looks great. I'll check again with my contacts at PCNA...

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