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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 04:44 PM
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Is the ONR ok to use when waxed with Carnuba wax lik Swisswax Concourse?
 
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Originally Posted by frafoss
Sounds too good to be true. What about swirwls? With lot of dust and sand you can't avoid swirwls, can you?
Here's another photo of the dirt that was on my car prior to ONR wash, if you look at the other photos I posted earlier, you will see that there aren't any swirls. I live near the water in So Cal and it's been awfully dry and windy lately and this is the level of dust and dirt that had accumulated on it.

Again, I realize these are not the absolute best photos, but there are no swirls

And this black Porsche paint is really soft.

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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 09:31 PM
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Is the ONR ok to use when waxed with Carnuba wax lik Swisswax Concourse?
Yes it is. I will try to get some more photos posted as I was on a bit of a road trip up the coast today and the car got pretty dirty. I will try to get better photos and show the step by step of how I use it. ( I know my photos suck!)
 
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Yes it is. I will try to get some more photos posted as I was on a bit of a road trip up the coast today and the car got pretty dirty. I will try to get better photos and show the step by step of how I use it. ( I know my photos suck!)
Where abouts are you uzj? Can I stop by and see your car? I know a lot of people raving about the ONR. I'd like to see a car that's been using it over time. Yours looks great; I'm just a bit skeptical.
 
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Where abouts are you uzj? Can I stop by and see your car? I know a lot of people raving about the ONR. I'd like to see a car that's been using it over time. Yours looks great; I'm just a bit skeptical.
Moe- anytime. Ventura area
 
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I'm with you Moe, I have had a black Porsche and can say that even with the absolute best wash technique swirls are unavoidable. How can UNR give you a swirl free finish when conventional wash methods can not?
 
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I'm with you Moe, I have had a black Porsche and can say that even with the absolute best wash technique swirls are unavoidable. How can UNR give you a swirl free finish when conventional wash methods can not?
Good question and of course nothing's perfect and every car will need polishing sometime. However, my point is, the level of dirt on my car in the photo can be as safely removed via ONR as with other methods. My post was not intended to imply that it will give you a swirl free finish. Only to show as best I could that using ONR is no more conducive to producing marring than the bucket and hose method. It's such a time saver too. I was VERY skeptical of it myself until I used it--now I'm hooked on it.

Why not give it a try and see how you like it compared to the "conventional" methods?

Whatever works for you and your car is what you should do.

You too are welcome to come look at my car--but, please, leave your dental gear at home =)
 

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Originally Posted by uzj100
Here's another photo of the dirt that was on my car prior to ONR wash, if you look at the other photos I posted earlier, you will see that there aren't any swirls. I live near the water in So Cal and it's been awfully dry and windy lately and this is the level of dust and dirt that had accumulated on it.

Again, I realize these are not the absolute best photos, but there are no swirls

And this black Porsche paint is really soft.

HTH
Thanks for the picture. I see the dust on the picture, but what about the dirt you get on the car when driving in wet conditons. Small stones, sand and dust mix together and dry together to a hard grey/brown look. Especially around the wheel bays and rear.

Do you use ONR when the car is like this also?
 
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That's a bit of a drive for me....I'll let you know when I'm up there for a detail. I'm all for technology...this is why I'm intrigued by this product. I'll just have to order some and try it out.
 
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Originally Posted by 2thfixr
I'm with you Moe, I have had a black Porsche and can say that even with the absolute best wash technique swirls are unavoidable. How can UNR give you a swirl free finish when conventional wash methods can not?
It seems the polymer technology is the reason. From what I'm told, the polymers become the buffer between the paint, dirt, and mitt. I think I might try this stuff out and report back.

Hey Doc....you got a replacement for your p-car....excellent choice
 
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Originally Posted by MoeMistry
It seems the polymer technology is the reason. From what I'm told, the polymers become the buffer between the paint, dirt, and mitt. I think I might try this stuff out and report back.

Hey Doc....you got a replacement for your p-car....excellent choice
Ok Moe, I await your test. If it works for you, it works for me!!!
 
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Originally Posted by frafoss
Thanks for the picture. I see the dust on the picture, but what about the dirt you get on the car when driving in wet conditons. Small stones, sand and dust mix together and dry together to a hard grey/brown look. Especially around the wheel bays and rear.

Do you use ONR when the car is like this also?
No--I would use a hose, brushes etc as needed in areas like wheel arches for caked on stuff.

Yours is a question that comes up a lot on other boards. Many prefer a "hybrid" technique for something like you describe. Pressure washing the caked on stuff, then doing the other areas with ONR. You can also mix the solution per directions and put it in a pump type I gallon garden sprayer, mist it on a panel--like a pre-treatment--then wash it off with your wash mitt of choice from your wash bucket.

If you wash your vehicles weekly, or at least try to, ONR is something you might like to try.

I've attached some more photos. These are of my Landcruiser. Obviously a much more forgiving color than the black Porsche. I don't have a video camera which would be ideal for you to see "live" how it works, but I believe Moe has provided the "technical" how it works explanation. All I know is that it works for me and lots and lots of others who have tried it and like it.

I usually use sheepskin mitts and a grit guard, (one bucket) for all of my washing with ONR.

HTH

And as already stated, I have no connections or affiliations with Optimum.
 
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