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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 12:58 AM
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Prospective Owner - Please Provide Input

A newbie here guys. This board is great. I'm in the process of putting together my order for a new 997, and had a couple of questions for you:

1. The C2S Order Guide indicates the calipers are painted red, whereas the pictures I've seen of the C2S often show them with yellow calipers. This doesn't seem to be an option you can change in the Order Guide so I'm curious how one can choose.

2. What is the typical order-to-delivery time. Say if I place an order on September 1, when should I expect to receive my production (order of magnitude here).

3. What is the typical dealer discount off of MSRP that I should anticipate getting, keeping in mind that I don't have a strong relationship with any particular dealer. I've heard I should expect in the 4 - 6% range, with preferred customers getting approximately a 7% discount.

4. Finally, I assume as with purchasing any new car, that all of us are going to take a pretty big depreciation hit after a year's worth of ownership. I guess the question I have is how much is that going to be mitigated by the fact that the car is a brand new model, and therefore might command a premium for a bit. Assume for simplicity's sake that you order now and hold for one-year. Are we talking 10% here, or more?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts / comments.
 
Old Aug 16, 2004 | 01:35 AM
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I believe that the yellow calipers could be ceramic brakes -

I would guess no matter what you're looking at a 20% depreciation (if you're lucky)

Porsche isn't known for discounting. I would think they'll hold firm on the 997 for some time unless they really get a huge inventory going.
 
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I believe that the yellow calipers could be ceramic brakes...
Gotcha. That makes sense.

Thx.
 
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to answer some of ur questions:
1. the yellow caliper u see is PCCB. the Porsche ceramic brakes. one of the C2S option.

2. doesn't matter when u place the order. find out the production month/date of ur car & from that time u're looking for around 2~3 weeks after the car is built since u're in East coast. order might be delayed if u have special options.

3. i doubt u'll get any discount on the 997 in the first year. MSRP will be the deal since i bet they'll have mark-up on them.

4. depends on the options u get. most options u will not get the money back in resale. if the car is not loaded u'll be looking at 10% -+. we'll see how reliable the 997 is on the first year production run. if the car is problem free then resale value should be fairly high in the first few years.
 
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Originally posted by 20C4S
to answer some of ur questions:
...2. doesn't matter when u place the order. find out the production month/date of ur car & from that time u're looking for around 2~3 weeks after the car is built since u're in East coast. order might be delayed if u have special options.
Thanks. I guess I'm curious to know how long between placing order and when the car will be produced. It that typically two months + another 2 - 3 weeks from shipping?

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3. i doubt u'll get any discount on the 997 in the first year. MSRP will be the deal since i bet they'll have mark-up on them.
Interesting. I would have thought with the number of Porsche dealers in the Tri-State area, one could competitively shop. Perhaps not.

Thanks again for your replies.
 
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Re: Prospective Owner - Please Provide Input

Originally posted by sneaky
What is the typical order-to-delivery time. Say if I place an order on September 1, when should I expect to receive my production (order of magnitude here).
It all depends on which month the particular dealer's next available production slot falls in. A month or so ago, one local dealer had October production slots available for the Carrera S, but another dealer didn't have an open slot until December.

The cars spend 2 weeks on the boat to the east coast (nearly 3 weeks to the west coast). Depending on how long it sits after completing production waiting to be loaded on the boat, and how quickly they complete PDI at the arriving port, it's about 3 - 5 weeks after completing production until it arrives at the dealer on the east coast.

Porsches give each dealer an allocation of production slots by car type (Carrera, Carrera S, etc.) by month, one quarter at a time (Porsche's production quarters are Aug/Sep/Oct, Nov/Dec/Jan, Feb/Mar/Apr, May/Jun/Jul). In the past the dealers got their allocations 6 weeks before the beginning of the quarter, but now they get the allocation for a quarter in the first month of the preceding quarter (so the Nov/Dec/Jan quarter allocation is given in Aug).
 

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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 12:11 AM
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here's some real time info

As of now, you are looking at November build with delivery by December.

The yellow brakes are ceramic, and an $8150 option.

Do not expect anything off sticker until winter.
 
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