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Originally posted by MJC123
With all the options I would want the car spec'd out over $90 grand. That's ridiculous....an equivalently equipped 996 c2 would've been less than $80. These cars are by no means limited production....I just think they're going to depreciate like rocks.
With all the options I would want the car spec'd out over $90 grand. That's ridiculous....an equivalently equipped 996 c2 would've been less than $80. These cars are by no means limited production....I just think they're going to depreciate like rocks.
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I tend to agree with the sentiment, but without exception, buying a Porsche, especially a base model Carrera, is one of the less expensive ways to burn money on newly released high-end sports cars.
If you expect better than 50% retained value over four years on just about anything short of a limited edition collector car from the middle of last century, you should be looking to buy a bridge in a major city on the east coast ... : )
If you expect better than 50% retained value over four years on just about anything short of a limited edition collector car from the middle of last century, you should be looking to buy a bridge in a major city on the east coast ... : )
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Originally posted by DEVEK GT
I tend to agree with the sentiment, but without exception, buying a Porsche, especially a base model Carrera, is one of the less expensive ways to burn money on newly released high-end sports cars.
If you expect better than 50% retained value over four years on just about anything short of a limited edition collector car from the middle of last century, you should be looking to buy a bridge in a major city on the east coast ... : )
I tend to agree with the sentiment, but without exception, buying a Porsche, especially a base model Carrera, is one of the less expensive ways to burn money on newly released high-end sports cars.
If you expect better than 50% retained value over four years on just about anything short of a limited edition collector car from the middle of last century, you should be looking to buy a bridge in a major city on the east coast ... : )
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Originally posted by 05997S
How about a BMW M3, an Audi S4, The Corvette, Mercedes SLK 55 to name a few.
How about a BMW M3, an Audi S4, The Corvette, Mercedes SLK 55 to name a few.
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I think the $100K threshold demands something " special " in buyer's mind. An SL55, S55, S600 in the MBZ lineup for example, or Turbo/GT2 or at least a C4S Cab or GT3 when normally aspirated . A rear wheel drive C2 ( 997S ) with base body width , 350 hp , and an interior and exterior that any optioned out base 325 hp 997 can copy might be giving buyers pause.
Originally posted by MKW
I think the $100K threshold demands something " special " in buyer's mind. An SL55, S55, S600 in the MBZ lineup for example, or Turbo/GT2 or at least a C4S Cab or GT3 when normally aspirated . A rear wheel drive C2 ( 997S ) with base body width , 350 hp , and an interior and exterior that any optioned out base 325 hp 997 can copy might be giving buyers pause.
I think the $100K threshold demands something " special " in buyer's mind. An SL55, S55, S600 in the MBZ lineup for example, or Turbo/GT2 or at least a C4S Cab or GT3 when normally aspirated . A rear wheel drive C2 ( 997S ) with base body width , 350 hp , and an interior and exterior that any optioned out base 325 hp 997 can copy might be giving buyers pause.
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Why are they not selling? Because you can buy a 996 turbo for $100,000.00 and have a much better car. They are crazy to think they will sell many 997's at $100,000.00
Just my humble opinion of course!
Just my humble opinion of course!
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Originally posted by nberry
The 997 looks like all previous 911's particularly the 993. If marginal performance gains are the selling point, then Porsche is going to have to rely on its hard core enthusiast to buy this car.
The 997 looks like all previous 911's particularly the 993. If marginal performance gains are the selling point, then Porsche is going to have to rely on its hard core enthusiast to buy this car.
Under hard charging, the chassis really shows its brilliance. It is that much better than my C4S.
Anyway, 2 hours after I drove it on Saturday, it was sold. I went back yesterday to take it for another dance, and it was sadly absent from its appointed parking spot.
If the dealer does not rape me on my C4S, I'll place an order this week.
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Originally posted by frayed
You either haven't driven the 997S, or if you did, you didn't really *drive* it.
Under hard charging, the chassis really shows its brilliance. It is that much better than my C4S.
Anyway, 2 hours after I drove it on Saturday, it was sold. I went back yesterday to take it for another dance, and it was sadly absent from its appointed parking spot.
If the dealer does not rape me on my C4S, I'll place an order this week.
You either haven't driven the 997S, or if you did, you didn't really *drive* it.
Under hard charging, the chassis really shows its brilliance. It is that much better than my C4S.
Anyway, 2 hours after I drove it on Saturday, it was sold. I went back yesterday to take it for another dance, and it was sadly absent from its appointed parking spot.
If the dealer does not rape me on my C4S, I'll place an order this week.
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I'll post a follow up when I find out. If it's horrific, I just won't do it. There are 4 other dealers to ping though.
EDIT: BTW, the earliest build date I could get was December, for Jan/Feb delivery. There are at least five people in front of me, and both demos the dealer had are now sold.
EDIT: BTW, the earliest build date I could get was December, for Jan/Feb delivery. There are at least five people in front of me, and both demos the dealer had are now sold.
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comparing prices of new (998) to used (Turbo) isn't really fair.
almost all new cars would fail a comparison for example new M3 or used 993 Turbo? ... the difference btw those 2 cars is much greater imo than the diff btw 998S & 996 Turbo.
even at a 100k the price is similar to SL500 new ... which is better? unarguably the 998s
almost all new cars would fail a comparison for example new M3 or used 993 Turbo? ... the difference btw those 2 cars is much greater imo than the diff btw 998S & 996 Turbo.
even at a 100k the price is similar to SL500 new ... which is better? unarguably the 998s
