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Old 03-08-2009, 04:13 PM
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How many steps removed from a GT3?

I was reading about the GT3, and the article mentioned that it uses the same 3.6 as the Carerra. If this is true, what did they do to produce over 400HP? And concerning those improvements, can they be added to a standard Carerra?

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they raised the redline to 8200. you can do that to your 3.6 as well but it may not hold together for very long
 
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Old 03-08-2009, 06:23 PM
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I don't believe it is a dry sump engine in the Carrera...other than displacement they have little in common
 
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The 3.6 in the old GT3 is based on a totally different motor than the carrera 997.1 3.6: the origional watercooled M1 racing motor as I recall. As Chuck says, it has a different oil delivery system among other things. The new GT3 uses the new block and is 3.8 liters
 
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Old 03-08-2009, 08:03 PM
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Its basically a naturally aspirated GT1 race engine in the earlier cars, believe it or not the block casting is based on the air cooled casting. The early GT3's actually had 964 stamped into the casting.
 
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Its basically a naturally aspirated GT1 race engine in the earlier cars, believe it or not the block casting is based on the air cooled casting. The early GT3's actually had 964 stamped into the casting.
+1, the 997.1 Carrera (including S) and GT3 are two entirely differnt engines.
 
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I wonder if they will stretch the engine to 4.0 liters for the 998?
 
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The GT3 is a purist's car: GT1 engine block with external dry sump tank, 8300rpm redline, LSD, and adjustable suspension. It is oriented for track.

It takes quite a bit of modding to get a Carrera or Carrera S to it's level of track performance. We have some good examples on this website with Jared's car (Blacktout) and a few others.

Some people will swear up and down that they are miles apart in performance, while others will say that they are not that different after mods.

Bottom line: The Carrera 3.6L "integrated dry sump" engine has nothing to do with the 3.6L GT3 engine with true "dry sump" with external oil tank.

It's your choice to decide whether the differences are worth the price delta.
 
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I would love to see the new GT3 get a PDK option with launch control and a race shift strategy mode. It would really make the most of the relatively peaky engine.
 
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Love the signature - 'I want a car so violent that the mere thought of full throttle would cause a heart attack. That actually going wide open throttle in would result in nothing less than instant death!'

This should do it for you - expected top speed of over 1000MPH in 2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiXro9CNOjY
 
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Love the signature - 'I want a car so violent that the mere thought of full throttle would cause a heart attack. That actually going wide open throttle in would result in nothing less than instant death!'

This should do it for you - expected top speed of over 1000MPH in 2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiXro9CNOjY
Nice video Ian, they should get Hammond to drive this car
 
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Already been watching this project for awhile, did you follow the JCB Diesel Max world record diesel speed attempt. Mr. Andy Green ( Sir Brass Cojones ) was driving that as well. 350 mph in a diesel! I look forward to seeing this car.
 
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Originally Posted by germeezy1
Its basically a naturally aspirated GT1 race engine in the earlier cars, believe it or not the block casting is based on the air cooled casting. The early GT3's actually had 964 stamped into the casting.
Yes. The block was air cooled and the heads were water cooled as in the 956.
 
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Or 959
 
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Here is the article which made me believe the engines were similar.

http://www.autabuy.com/Vehicles/Deta...SCHE&Model=GT3

"It uses the same 3.6-liter flat-six as the standard Carrera, but larger throttle bodies and a freer-flowing exhaust allow it to send up to 409 horsepower..."

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