Ferrari 360 v.s. CS/CS2
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The 997 is the only supercar you can drive every day. The 360/430 isn't. Finicky, limited visibility, atrocious service prices, subject to drool and key marks if left in the mall parking lot.
OTOH, as a weekend driver, a Ferrari would be fabulous. With limited driving miles the interval service pricing is not a great concern, there's limited vandal risk, and the visibility is a non issue. You're driving it out on the open road.
But for such duty, it's the 430 that you seek. It's a magnificent car. There's pride of owning a relatively rare car. And nothing sounds like an F-car.
I already have a garage queen. But if I didn't, at today's prices, I'd consider adding a Ferrari. But add, not replace.
OTOH, as a weekend driver, a Ferrari would be fabulous. With limited driving miles the interval service pricing is not a great concern, there's limited vandal risk, and the visibility is a non issue. You're driving it out on the open road.
But for such duty, it's the 430 that you seek. It's a magnificent car. There's pride of owning a relatively rare car. And nothing sounds like an F-car.
I already have a garage queen. But if I didn't, at today's prices, I'd consider adding a Ferrari. But add, not replace.
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any thoughts on the audi r8 in this regard? i haven't had my 997 C2S a full year yet so haven't researched a ton, but definitely looking a few years out, that (or a turbo) seemed like logical cars to "upgrade" to.
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As an owner of both a 360 F1 Spider and a 997 c2 Cab, I can say that they have distinct differences. Not so much how they "feel, handle, ride" etc... But rather how YOU feel behind the wheel.
Nothing sings like a Ferrari Flat Crank V-8 and the paddles are divine..
Trading them both for a 430 F1 Spider this summer.
If you can swing it go with the Ferrari once in you life. It's addictive
Nothing sings like a Ferrari Flat Crank V-8 and the paddles are divine..
Trading them both for a 430 F1 Spider this summer.
If you can swing it go with the Ferrari once in you life. It's addictive
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Well that's a very good point. And my comment was definitely 'pre R8 think'. I do feel like some time needs to pass to prove it out, but I have no doubt that the R8 will be the only other car in that everyday supercar strategy. When the R8 cab ships, I'll be looking very hard at one myself.
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As an owner of both a 360 F1 Spider and a 997 c2 Cab, I can say that they have distinct differences. Not so much how they "feel, handle, ride" etc... But rather how YOU feel behind the wheel.
Nothing sings like a Ferrari Flat Crank V-8 and the paddles are divine..
Trading them both for a 430 F1 Spider this summer.
If you can swing it go with the Ferrari once in you life. It's addictive
Nothing sings like a Ferrari Flat Crank V-8 and the paddles are divine..
Trading them both for a 430 F1 Spider this summer.
If you can swing it go with the Ferrari once in you life. It's addictive
Nice cars!
I think a lot of people here can swing it and buy a Ferrari (at current prices), but we are worry about the too-much-attention and potential maintenance costs.
Have you driven your 360 at the track? if yes, I want to hear about using the paddles there - you like it, or found it boring? Thanks.
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Nice cars!
I think a lot of people here can swing it and buy a Ferrari (at current prices), but we are worry about the too-much-attention and potential maintenance costs.
Have you driven your 360 at the track? if yes, I want to hear about using the paddles there - you like it, or found it boring? Thanks.
I think a lot of people here can swing it and buy a Ferrari (at current prices), but we are worry about the too-much-attention and potential maintenance costs.
Have you driven your 360 at the track? if yes, I want to hear about using the paddles there - you like it, or found it boring? Thanks.
Tim,
I'd agree on the maintenance, but not bad if you keep it at 10K mi per year or so.
With regard to the F1, this is my second F1 and it is the way to go. Especially at the track. Perfect shifts every time, no transmission or clutch wear, and and you feel like Schumacher.
Watkins Glen was my Favorite.
Cheers
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As an owner of both a 360 F1 Spider and a 997 c2 Cab, I can say that they have distinct differences. Not so much how they "feel, handle, ride" etc... But rather how YOU feel behind the wheel.
Nothing sings like a Ferrari Flat Crank V-8 and the paddles are divine..
Trading them both for a 430 F1 Spider this summer.
If you can swing it go with the Ferrari once in you life. It's addictive
Nothing sings like a Ferrari Flat Crank V-8 and the paddles are divine..
Trading them both for a 430 F1 Spider this summer.
If you can swing it go with the Ferrari once in you life. It's addictive
WTS, the continued dropping of the 360 and CS2, it may be a wash in net $$$$
I agree, btw, no matter what the detractors say, if you are a savvy buyer you can get a 360/430 at the right time in its repair/maintenance lifecycle, this is a pure joy that should not be missed and will not cost you either your arm or your leg.
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this is kind of the dilemma i'm facing right now. I'm looking not for a daily driver, but a weekend / going out / have fun in car. The c4s i'm about to place an order for (~$130k) is within the range of a used 2005 f430.
The 911 is certainly more drivable and useable (can drive in the winter, leave it in parking lot without coming back and finding puddles of drool around it, etc) but when i already have a very useable daily driver (audi a4) is sensible something i should really care about?
The 911 is certainly more drivable and useable (can drive in the winter, leave it in parking lot without coming back and finding puddles of drool around it, etc) but when i already have a very useable daily driver (audi a4) is sensible something i should really care about?
It's quite a stretch if the complaints about the F-Cars are (the potential of) attention, key marks, fingerprints and drool are part of the argument not to purchase one. As for DD, what is DD, 10K? 25K? 50K annually? I have driven my 360 as a DD over 35K over a two year period and it has performed very well.
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Nice cars!
I think a lot of people here can swing it and buy a Ferrari (at current prices), but we are worry about the too-much-attention and potential maintenance costs.
Have you driven your 360 at the track? if yes, I want to hear about using the paddles there - you like it, or found it boring? Thanks.
I think a lot of people here can swing it and buy a Ferrari (at current prices), but we are worry about the too-much-attention and potential maintenance costs.
Have you driven your 360 at the track? if yes, I want to hear about using the paddles there - you like it, or found it boring? Thanks.
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As a previous owner of a Maserati cambiocorsa Coupe with the F1 paddles I can say that it really left me wanting more. Its is sublime on the track if you want perfect shifts everytime but I felt that it removed the driver out of the element, sort of like a video game. After about a year or so of ownership, the boredom was too much and I got rid of it. Personally I will never buy another exotic with electronic clutches.
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As a previous owner of a Maserati cambiocorsa Coupe with the F1 paddles I can say that it really left me wanting more. Its is sublime on the track if you want perfect shifts everytime but I felt that it removed the driver out of the element, sort of like a video game. After about a year or so of ownership, the boredom was too much and I got rid of it. Personally I will never buy another exotic with electronic clutches.
I suppose I do ocassionally miss rowing the gears, but that's what the wifey's MINI is for I'll keep the F1 in the Ferrari.
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Interesting thread. Its funny, I have been saving my $ for a 997 4S and during that time my mind has wandered to the Bentley GTC and now the 360.
For me the cars are weekend cars since I live in NYC. I have a Cayenne S that is overly functional so don't have to worry there. As far as the F1 transmission goes if you read the Ferrari forums everyone says stay away as it is super $$ to fix and has a tendancy to break so find a 6 speed manual, which is harder to find. Outside of that you can do a lot of your own work on a 360 from oil changes to belts.
This thread has gotten me to research more on a 360 (rainy day here in NY) then I ever thought I would. I have seen prices for the 360 from the 70k-95k range and that has to due with service intervals and miles.
For me the cars are weekend cars since I live in NYC. I have a Cayenne S that is overly functional so don't have to worry there. As far as the F1 transmission goes if you read the Ferrari forums everyone says stay away as it is super $$ to fix and has a tendancy to break so find a 6 speed manual, which is harder to find. Outside of that you can do a lot of your own work on a 360 from oil changes to belts.
This thread has gotten me to research more on a 360 (rainy day here in NY) then I ever thought I would. I have seen prices for the 360 from the 70k-95k range and that has to due with service intervals and miles.
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Interesting thread. Its funny, I have been saving my $ for a 997 4S and during that time my mind has wandered to the Bentley GTC and now the 360.
For me the cars are weekend cars since I live in NYC. I have a Cayenne S that is overly functional so don't have to worry there. As far as the F1 transmission goes if you read the Ferrari forums everyone says stay away as it is super $$ to fix and has a tendancy to break so find a 6 speed manual, which is harder to find. Outside of that you can do a lot of your own work on a 360 from oil changes to belts.
This thread has gotten me to research more on a 360 (rainy day here in NY) then I ever thought I would. I have seen prices for the 360 from the 70k-95k range and that has to due with service intervals and miles.
For me the cars are weekend cars since I live in NYC. I have a Cayenne S that is overly functional so don't have to worry there. As far as the F1 transmission goes if you read the Ferrari forums everyone says stay away as it is super $$ to fix and has a tendancy to break so find a 6 speed manual, which is harder to find. Outside of that you can do a lot of your own work on a 360 from oil changes to belts.
This thread has gotten me to research more on a 360 (rainy day here in NY) then I ever thought I would. I have seen prices for the 360 from the 70k-95k range and that has to due with service intervals and miles.
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Interesting thread. Its funny, I have been saving my $ for a 997 4S and during that time my mind has wandered to the Bentley GTC and now the 360.
For me the cars are weekend cars since I live in NYC. I have a Cayenne S that is overly functional so don't have to worry there. As far as the F1 transmission goes if you read the Ferrari forums everyone says stay away as it is super $$ to fix and has a tendancy to break so find a 6 speed manual, which is harder to find. Outside of that you can do a lot of your own work on a 360 from oil changes to belts.
This thread has gotten me to research more on a 360 (rainy day here in NY) then I ever thought I would. I have seen prices for the 360 from the 70k-95k range and that has to due with service intervals and miles.
For me the cars are weekend cars since I live in NYC. I have a Cayenne S that is overly functional so don't have to worry there. As far as the F1 transmission goes if you read the Ferrari forums everyone says stay away as it is super $$ to fix and has a tendancy to break so find a 6 speed manual, which is harder to find. Outside of that you can do a lot of your own work on a 360 from oil changes to belts.
This thread has gotten me to research more on a 360 (rainy day here in NY) then I ever thought I would. I have seen prices for the 360 from the 70k-95k range and that has to due with service intervals and miles.
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