Nothing beats the wider rear end.

 

lol,
I looked from the rear at a c4s and a c2s parked side by side, and c2s looked better and just right. I thought the c4s was little too wide. I guess the look is a personal preference

from what i hear many prefer c2S if not drivng in snow due to better steering feel, nimbleness and the purer rwd feel

 

I'm surprised Porsche hasn't started offering a wide body version on the C2. I think there are a number of buyers who like the wider rear who don't like all wheel drive, myself included. I wouldn't buy a C4 to get the wider rear end.

Maybe this will be an option in the future.

 

Can the 4s be broken loose with acceleration, as I would think the 2 can be?

 

+1
absolutely right. And don't want a Turbo for DD. I don't track.

 

I completely agree with you

 

OK, Had a chance to drive them back to back. 06 c2s cab & 07 c4s cab, both manual. I tried to get in w/out noticing which was which, but even from the front, I could tell the 4. That *** is evident from the front of the rear fenders

Honestly, this sounds weird, but the 4S felt quicker off the line. Not sure if year difference had anything to do with it.

I couldnt get either to really brake loose with tract control off.

The 4S just had a better feel in the brief section of curves I could find. Must be a newbie thing.

So, who's got a line on a 07+ cab 4s manual in silver for $65K?

Or a 09 for under 90K?

 

That's what I found out too. Start Up from stop is faster and feel better with better grip. The 40mm wider "A" is very noticeable when you see it from the rear mirror. I believe not only wider but a little different shape too.

 

Can anyone tell me the differences from 06 to 07 to 08 on the S cars? I've searched to no avail. 08-09 I get but keep getting different answers from dealers (?) of 06-08 improvements You'd think they would know.

 

Based on my very little knowledge, from my understanding, almost nothing changed from '06 to '08. Obviously the major changes occured for '09 as you stated. I'm sure more will have to add to this.

 

The reason is: The C4S is geared differently from the C2S. Look it up.

At least I know this is true for the 997.1's

Gear ratio diffs not huge, but the C4S slightly lower (ie quicker).

 

But the C4S always has a slower 0-60 than the C2S (according to the Porsche web site).

So when you say "quicker," what do you mean?

 

Hi nizzoc4s, So you mean Porsche make the C4 gear ratio lower than the C2 for better torque or a reason, or may be a heavier chassis? Does it trade off any things like top speed etc..?
Anyway, I personally like the C4 over the C2 on start up from stand still. But I agree with everyone the C2 is more agile and fun if you can manage it.

 

Carrera 2S gear ratios listed here:

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...data_panel.pdf

Carrera 4S gear ratios are listed in their 06 C4s vs Audi RS 4 article from the August 06 issue which for some reason they only have the video portion of it online. I have it at home and when I get there tonite I'll post the numbers, but I did compare a couple weeks ago and they were different:

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=3675

As to why C2S is quicker...and it is, especially the trap speed in the 1/4...well that's easy. Better power to weight ratio, and also less drivetrain frictional losses. Both of those combined offset the slightly taller gearing on the C2S, to make it a quicker car.

C2S traps 111-114mph. I have yet to see a stock C4S trap 111. It's close...can do 110.x (best I've seen) but never in the teens like the C2S can as officially recorded by many runs on tracks over the past few years.

0-60 is pretty much a wash. C2S with a great launch may gain 1/4 car length or so by the time u shift into 3rd gear...that's it.

But it's extremely close and on avg I'd say any given C4S weighs ~120 lbs over a similarly-equipped C2S. Now, between 120mph-180mph the C2S will certainly start walking the C4S. Not by multiple car lengths though.

 

I'm a bit surprised by the repeated mentioning of the rwd car getting away from you. The electronics that govern stability work so effectively that if you can defeat them, you'd be on the edge in virtually any car. You do have to heed the slow-in/fast-out process, but that is true for all 911's.
Yesterday, I was teaching my 18 year old about fighting the intuitive act of getting off the throttle if you find yourself too hot in a turn. Perhaps the AWD would just walk you through those scenarios but at the edge, a rear-engine car requires 'help' to defy physics and remain stable.
BTW, my vote is AWD for looks, RWD for driving.