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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 01:11 PM
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As others have said, the car should be totaled and if it means getting an attorney to help, then do so. This is not a $15k car with a 3 year life expectancy. This is a $100k Porsche that should (if not for this flooding) last decades. You obviously paid serious money for the proper insurance and hired a respected shipper - but something went wrong and it's time for them to put up and total the car and allow you to get a replacement.
 
Old Aug 21, 2009 | 01:28 PM
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+1. I'm normally adverse to recommending this, but this is exactly the case in which a lawyer should be immediately involved. This car has to be totaled, taken off your hands, and compensation for the mods and lost of time need to be factored as well. DO NOT try to do this yourself and do not delay. DO NOT wait until you are dissatisfied with the proposed settlement and do not communicate with them directly any further. That is the attorney's job.
I am very sorry to hear about this loss, but this is no longer be a car, no less the same car you owned prior. It is a fishtank.

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As others have said, the car should be totaled and if it means getting an attorney to help, then do so. This is not a $15k car with a 3 year life expectancy. This is a $100k Porsche that should (if not for this flooding) last decades. You obviously paid serious money for the proper insurance and hired a respected shipper - but something went wrong and it's time for them to put up and total the car and allow you to get a replacement.
 
Old Aug 21, 2009 | 01:36 PM
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What is the name of the shipping company? What company provided insurance coverage for the shipment?
 
Old Aug 21, 2009 | 02:00 PM
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I would get severAl quotes and fro
the quotes the insurance should just total out the car. If not I would demand it. The seats and wiring alone shoud merit a total loss
 
Old Aug 21, 2009 | 02:45 PM
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Lawyer is a must.
 
Old Aug 21, 2009 | 03:41 PM
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This thread is gut wrenching and I wish you well. I would do everything already suggested here. Good luck.
 
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Hi, sorry to hear this. When I shipped my one from NY to France last year, I was told to take a US insurance and to declare the European value of the car (substantially higher). Presumably your insurance was US too and if it is common practice over there to get the car replaced rather than repaired, you might be able to enforce this.
 
Old Aug 21, 2009 | 04:47 PM
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I am not sure if a submerged car qualifies as "totalled" status . The insurance company will claim that they can fix it .

In the 1980's I got caught in a rainstorm so bad that I coild not see and I pulled off the road into a parking lot . A large construction ditch had the same water level as everything else and at 5mph I slowly drove right into the ditch .
The water went up to the door sills and I climbed out my window .

The car was never the same . Every attempt to fix it was performed but as soon as it appeared ok an electrical problem woild come or a sudden hesitation . Water damage is extremely bad .

My advice - An attorney will cost time and stress and I think in the end you will lose getting exactly what you want -- a new car. It could take months and your ruined car is depreciating . Let it dry , get it to run , and trade it in on a new car . See if the shipping company will pay out a flat fee for and they might. It wouild be an easy way for all of you to resolve this right here and now.
 
Old Aug 21, 2009 | 04:55 PM
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My view, get rid of it ..

On the warranty front, I think the factory is one year and anything else is down to the importer.

However, if for example, my 1.5 year old UK car had a problem AND I had had it shipped to the US, I can't see a US Porsche dealer fixing it as the car is unknown to Porsche USA.

So for your car, I can't see Porsche GB after one year providing any warranty help with your car. This was always the case when Right Hand Drive cars were ordered from a German Porsche dealer ... just one year factory only

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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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while filming the movie Valkrie in Germany, some crew members got hurt. the lawyers for the hurt tried desperately to move the case back to the US where they felt they could get a much better settlement.

that effort failed and the insurance compay thru the German court system didnt have to pay didly or very close to it.

and the OP could probably answer this better but how will the british courts/law look at this case. getting a lawyer and going to court will not get you anything in some countries.
 
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since the shipper was engaged in the US, and the bailment started in New Jersey, I would think the op could take the carrier to court here..any attorneys want to chime in here
 
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Again, good reasons to secure an attorney. I hate the fact that the US has become such a litigious society. It has contributed to tanking our economy and our inventiveness.
But here is a prime case where it simply makes sense. It's complex (multiple nationalities) and loaded with deep pockets (multiple companies).
And I don't understand how to pursue the path of selling the car. The OP will either incur a huge loss by selling such a damaged car, or in 'patching it up, someone will be getting ripped off.
Again, I'm very sorry for the loss here. And I hope my comments don't sound too cold. But this is a costly and complex situation and the OP should not be penalized for a horrible mishap.

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since the shipper was engaged in the US, and the bailment started in New Jersey, I would think the op could take the carrier to court here..any attorneys want to chime in here
 

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Sorry to hear your about your situation. I agree with yrralis1, get what you can from the insurance company and then trade it in. The car is basically ruined.
 
Old Aug 22, 2009 | 12:17 PM
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I feel your pain .... Having just shipped two cars from the US to the UK with no problems I can understand the grief you are suffering.

I went for two cars in my own container, watched both the loading and unloading process but still took the most expensive insurance for piece of mind.

Hope everything works out for you.
 
Old Aug 22, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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Indeed for anyone thinking about shipping, by all means do avoid roros (roll-on roll off) and preferably buy an individual 20" container. In 40 footers loading 2 or 4 cars there have been reports of cars crashing on each others.

I took a 600km train ride to Le Havre to attend the container opening and unload the car myself!
 


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