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Old Sep 27, 2009 | 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ryem3
Really sorry to hear that. Someone else also had the question, is the clutch just "odd" or is it really slipping. An easy way to tell is get on the highway in 4th gear and get on and off the gas. If you get on the gas and notice the revs building without a proportional increase in speed, that's the clutch slipping. As per the quote - if the clutch gets burned you definitely smell it. You would smell it in the car too. The smell is really hard to miss.

Too late for this instance, but I recommend the waterless car wash stuff. As Utkinpol put it, I really hated car washing and did it maybe every few months. However, the waterless car wash stuff lets me wash my car in the comfort of my garage at 9:00 PM. Go to Griot's Garage. Don't blame me later when you need to open an account with them . I have their waterless cash wash solution and special towels and it is perfect. Also have the Speed Shine for dealing with light dust and detailing wheels. Also have their orbital polisher and Best of Show wax that will make your car shine like a mirror. You can wash your car at night by the light of the garage lights! You might miss a spot here or there, but you won't deal with car wash monkeys ever again!
It's not slipping yet, but it's pretty much towards the end of the clutch I can feel it. I didn't smell anything in the car.

I really need to look into other solutions like you said...
 
Old Sep 27, 2009 | 11:58 AM
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Guys, if I need to replace the clutch it may be an opportunity to install Light Weight Fly Wheel as well We'll see after I take the car to the dealership tomorrow...
 
Old Sep 27, 2009 | 01:32 PM
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No carwash, no valets for me. I second the Optimum No-Rinse suggestion above.

You can wash your car anywhere with a 1-2gallon bucket and 1-2-gallon of water. I only use Optimum No-Rinse to wash my cars. It just works!
 
Old Sep 27, 2009 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by adias
No carwash, no valets for me. I second the Optimum No-Rinse suggestion above.

You can wash your car anywhere with a 1-2gallon bucket and 1-2-gallon of water. I only use Optimum No-Rinse to wash my cars. It just works!
I simply cannot see how you can avoid some scratching when rubbing dirt over paint with this process, in fact, I think there is always some small amount of scratching even when flooding the area with water/detergent. I guess it depends how large the particals are. If there are the size of polishing compound, I guess it just doesn't show. If they are on say the lower body panels where mud or gravel dust collects, I just have a hard time believing there is no abrasion that occurs.
 
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I simply cannot see how you can avoid some scratching when rubbing dirt over paint with this process, in fact, I think there is always some small amount of scratching even when flooding the area with water/detergent. I guess it depends how large the particals are. If there are the size of polishing compound, I guess it just doesn't show. If they are on say the lower body panels where mud or gravel dust collects, I just have a hard time believing there is no abrasion that occurs.
You are very welcome to believe that and avoid using an outstanding product/method.
 
Old Sep 27, 2009 | 03:50 PM
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Sorry to hear about your problem, I have the ability to wash my cars at my house, but several people I know take their cars to The Car Wash at Bird and US-1, just north of the Mobil Station and have had no problems, you can also watch your car being washed! I would never let it our of my sight if I took it to a car wash and someone else would be driving my car. Hope the dealer can help you out.
 
Old Sep 27, 2009 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by sin911
Guys, if I need to replace the clutch it may be an opportunity to install Light Weight Fly Wheel as well We'll see after I take the car to the dealership tomorrow...
I think for a daily driver car LWFW may not be quite a good option. It will make it very uncomfortable to drive in start-stop traffic.
Well, I was told that, as I do not have LWFW it is just a theoretical info for me, but I was told so by several people already. Great option for tracking car, quite horrible for regular street driving.
 
Old Sep 27, 2009 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Porsche323
Sorry to hear about your problem, I have the ability to wash my cars at my house, but several people I know take their cars to The Car Wash at Bird and US-1, just north of the Mobil Station and have had no problems, you can also watch your car being washed! I would never let it our of my sight if I took it to a car wash and someone else would be driving my car. Hope the dealer can help you out.
Thanks, do you know the name of the place by any chance?
 
Old Sep 27, 2009 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by utkinpol
I think for a daily driver car LWFW may not be quite a good option. It will make it very uncomfortable to drive in start-stop traffic.
Well, I was told that, as I do not have LWFW it is just a theoretical info for me, but I was told so by several people already. Great option for tracking car, quite horrible for regular street driving.
I don't know a lot about LWFW so I will ask my mechanic about it tomorrow morning... I took her for a quick drive again, the clutch is really worn out. I can't lift off without getting the car to 2,000 RPMs...
 
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Originally Posted by talkinghead
I simply cannot see how you can avoid some scratching when rubbing dirt over paint with this process, in fact, I think there is always some small amount of scratching even when flooding the area with water/detergent. I guess it depends how large the particals are. If there are the size of polishing compound, I guess it just doesn't show. If they are on say the lower body panels where mud or gravel dust collects, I just have a hard time believing there is no abrasion that occurs.
I can't see it either unless his car is -
a) a light color which doesn't show it.
b) venture shield on major dirt collection areas
c) professionally detailed every few months to clean up the abrasion and or residue .
d) oe he fails to notice the swirl

Any time one even touches the car's exterior-- the existing dirt plus pressure increases the risk of scratch /swirl/blemish.
 
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Originally Posted by Porsche323
Sorry to hear about your problem, I have the ability to wash my cars at my house, but several people I know take their cars to The Car Wash at Bird and US-1, just north of the Mobil Station and have had no problems, you can also watch your car being washed! I would never let it our of my sight if I took it to a car wash and someone else would be driving my car. Hope the dealer can help you out.
I believe that's a "touchless" car wash but the problem with it is that usually in order for those chemicals to clean the car they have to be strong . Even though there are attendents (to dry and vacuum) they just provide the final step.

There is one other idea. I have read posts in the Fl section . I also have talked to a few in service who have heard of him . There is a detailer in Miami named "El Chino" . He is supposed to be a legend of greatness .

I want him to to wax my Turbo .
Now maybe he can't do Sin911's car often but he's be the one to ask who can .
 

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Originally Posted by sin911
I took my car to get her washed at the mall today, everything was fine until I drove a couple of miles and realized the clutch was terrible... They have completely worn the clutch out! It doesn't grip up to midway of the pedal!

I have 5k miles on the car, bought new in November. Every time I give my car to someone (valet, car wash) I freak out... I can't give my car to the valet when I go to a restaurant for this reason! I park some where near, if I can and then walk. I look like an idiot, but what can I do?

No body knows how to drive a frickin' stick shift! It is so simple, it's not math! You don't need to be a genius to drive manual! Can't anyone afford a decent driver to work for the Valet or Car wash? Do they have to be so cheap that they ruin our cars? I am really mad about this!



So what am I supposed to do now? Get a new clutch every 5k miles? Or not get my car washed? I live in an apartment, I don't have a driveway where I can wash my car in...
It think it would be impossible for them to wear your clutch out at the car wash. You must have a mechanical issue. What the hell you doing at a car wash anyway! I know you dont have a house, but you should at least pull into a car wash bay and wash her yourself, not let it drive thru some yahoo mall. You are way too uptight about the car. I love pulling up to a restautrant w/ a ride like this, part of the fun of owning it! Always thriw the valet a $10 or so and tell them to keep it in the front. Always works for me as well as w/ parking garages in the city. $10 goes a long way, when they make that at best an hour.
 
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Originally Posted by talkinghead
I simply cannot see how you can avoid some scratching when rubbing dirt over paint with this process, in fact, I think there is always some small amount of scratching even when flooding the area with water/detergent. I guess it depends how large the particals are. If there are the size of polishing compound, I guess it just doesn't show. If they are on say the lower body panels where mud or gravel dust collects, I just have a hard time believing there is no abrasion that occurs.
I read about this stuff: http://www.optimumcarcare.com/onrwns.htm?li=2

It uses water in bucket similar to a normal wash, just no rinsing off soap at the end. It is billed as "no rinse", not no water. Although I like to rinse my mitt after each panel at least and use a different mitt for the lower areas and yet another for the wheel wells. So, I don't know. Black cars are tricky, but if I had silver, I'd be less worried.

Still, it sounds like a good low water option. I'll keep this in mind if we ever get back into drought/water restrictions again like last year. Even though I don't use much water washing my car - using a pressure washer on low pressure really saves a ton of water. But there's no question that a lot of water gets "wasted" rinsing off soap (and possibly any dirt lifted into it ).
 
Old Sep 28, 2009 | 10:24 AM
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GOOD NEWS!!! I just got back from the service, the mechanic says there's nothing wrong with my car...

At first the service manager (Tim, I'm telling the name so that Yrralis1 would know ) took her for a short run and said that it felt abnormal... Then he took her upstairs to the service department and about an hour later the shop foreman (Rich, this part is for yrralis1 as well ) took her for a short spin and said nothing is wrong with my car...

So apparently they wore the clutch off a little, but nothing that serious that the clutch needs to be replaced... It doesn't have the aggressive feeling when I'm lifting off anymore... But at least I don't have to pay $2k for a replacement.
 
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Originally Posted by sin911
GOOD NEWS!!! I just got back from the service, the mechanic says there's nothing wrong with my car...

At first the service manager (Tim, I'm telling the name so that Yrralis1 would know ) took her for a short run and said that it felt abnormal... Then he took her upstairs to the service department and about an hour later the shop foreman (Rich, this part is for yrralis1 as well ) took her for a short spin and said nothing is wrong with my car...

So apparently they wore the clutch off a little, but nothing that serious that the clutch needs to be replaced... It doesn't have the aggressive feeling when I'm lifting off anymore... But at least I don't have to pay $2k for a replacement.
That's good to hear, but the fact remains that you brought your car somewhere which resulted in it driving differently. Definitely don't bring your car there again or let it out of your sight going forward if you do decide to go back.
 

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