Utkinpol, thanks man, I was in need of a smile today.
I think you will find that well over 90% of the buyers of this TPC Turbo system live well over 350 miles from TPC. Hahaha! Many live in Hong Kong and Singapore and in other distant Asian countries. And by far, most of the USA owners do NOT live near the northeast. Several owners ship their cars across country to have it installed at TPC. And it is all worth it!

You have a very lax idea of "PITA".

 

We have a list of installers that have done work for us before located on our site. You will be able to buy it through them and they can install it for you... We dont have any in the NE though... we are too close not to get it done.

 

I am a lazy bone when it comes to logistics. it is really much less argument of kit/install price than nevessity to have to get time off work and family then drive car somewhere, then leave it there, fly back, then fly back again to pick it up... time is much more precious than money.

Still I am very interested to see how this project will work out eventually. Keep up good work.

 

Completely understand... Use Intercity Lines then... www.intercitylines.com

 

How about the 997.2 system?

 

we are a small company... we have the kit built. just need to finish the fueling.

 

cibergypsy... you have PM.

 

Can you explain why someone would spend $12k to have a VF supercharger installed, and then spend a grand having it uninstalled, and then another $12K (guessing) to have the turbo installed?

Your kit seems fine, but the power is probably comparable to a supercharged car and the boost levels are probably the same (guessing 5-6 psi). That seems fiscally a little crazy. I could see if you were starting from scratch....

 

there is nothing fiscal about modding any car... or just these cars in general... its FUN thing

BTW, Great job TPC!!!!

You guys always do awesome work and are at the top of the development ladder!

 

Well the turbo kit offers signifcantly more flexibility and support than non-TPC supercharger kit offers... Boost adjustment at the turning of a ****, significantly easier install and removal... the ability for significantly higher power gains and the ability to do more "tweaking"...

Plus it is going to cost a bit less than the current charger offerings.

i personally like tweaking cars and this is a good option for those people.

Casey

 

Please tell me more about the "signifcantly more flexibility and support than non-TPC supercharger kit offers". I'd like to hear more about that.

Boost adjustment? We're only talking max 6psi still right?

With regards to power gains, it's not the supercharger that is limiting the power (there's plenty more there with a pulley), it's the engine blowing up that is the issue. How is it the the turbo car can produce more power than a supercharged car with stock internals and compression? What kind of consistent rear wheel numbers will this kit produce?

What kind of tweaking can you do? Again, it's only 5-6psi right?


I guess what I still don't get is why someone would tear off a kit that cost about 10% of the purchase price of the car to put on another kit that cost around 10% of the purchase price of the car.

Like I said in my previous post, if you were starting with a stock car that's another story. For the $24K the owner just spent on FI kits, he could have applied that to the revenue from the sale of his current car and gotten a turbo.

Looks like a fun mod. What is the cost for the kit and how will you support it for people that don't live near your shop?

I do applaud TPC for setting themselves apart from their competition by coming out with a totally different product instead of competing in the same arena. Good business move. It will be interesting to see how the kits hold up. We already know the engines will take mild FI applications.

 

Alot of our current turbo owners use the boost controller to switch between lower power levels(for track work) and higher power levels(for street work)... A bit easier than goign back and swapping a pulley. As far as power... we have 3.4L caymans @ 6psi making 450whp... We deliver most cars at 420whp(on 93 octane) at 5psi. So as compared to what most 3.8L sc cars are making... we are already past that on a smaller engine.

I dont want to make power claims until we have it finished. I do know that we have delivered a 3.8L(x51) w/higher compression (installed in a cayman) that made 505 @ 6psi.

We are also goign to offer a routine switcher which chooses timing maps for higher octane fuels... More tweaking.

This system isnt targeted towards past FI owners... but we believe it is teh future of adding FI to the 996/997 Platform. More power, less or equal boost and a significantly easier install.

 

Could you elaborate more about ongoing support question?

 

I am not allowed to direct you to any other site regarding our support... and that is where you will find a lot of testimonies on our products and from our clients.

TPC has been in Business since 1988 and we have always supported our client as a small business should. Last month we flew out to CA to tune specifically for 91 octane cars(on our own dime) and compete in the Eurotuner GP(shelves in January).

We have quite a number of certified installers and resellers across the USA and the amount is increasing every week.

http://tpcracing.com/info/dealers

You will have a warranty for 1 year on our products if you purchase it through us(mailorder or install) or if it is installed by any of our dealers/installers. They can provide support as well.

We are not a fly by night company. We are a bunch of guys who love this stuff and live it every day.

*edit: also note that we have done custom tunes for clients in person and over the phone... that is pretty good support. Do others offer that?

 

i think whats limited the SC kits from running most boost is the stock fuel pump and the 996 should be able to handle up to 8-9psi without any real issues if the tuning right

hey Casey, is TPC going to change or improve the fuel system delivery other than changing the fuel injectors? maybe a 5bar?