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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 01:37 PM
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Every 5 years the helmet standard gets 'updated' and new helmets come out, and the 10 year old ones are disqualified from use. Its part of the 'keep the companies in business' by making everyone buy new helmets. No way is a 12-15 year old helmet that much worse. But its the cost of the sport.

Given windows-down requirements, I'd go with full face.
 
Old Mar 9, 2011 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by lowpue
This is a great Thread guys...thanks for all the information....

Ryan from Suncoast....Can you be specific on which 997.2 seats the extinguisher mounts. Thanks in advance.
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The extinguisher mounts to sport and comfort seats. Will not work with any bucket seat...
 
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lowpue,

The extinguisher mounts to sport and comfort seats. Will not work with any bucket seat...
that is why I posted that link where bracket connects to seat rail bolts.

plus it is generally a bad idea to have fire ext. on a driver seat as you can catch it with yout foot. it is better be on a passenger side and you cannot mount anything to passenger seat on 997 car usually as it has those passenger airbag weight sensors mounted under the seat where fire ext. bracket would go. so it has to get bolted to the floor.
 
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that is why I posted that link where bracket connects to seat rail bolts.

plus it is generally a bad idea to have fire ext. on a driver seat as you can catch it with yout foot. it is better be on a passenger side and you cannot mount anything to passenger seat on 997 car usually as it has those passenger airbag weight sensors mounted under the seat where fire ext. bracket would go. so it has to get bolted to the floor.
Eghad! Does anyone know if the SpeedTactics 2005-2010 Porsche 911-Caymen-Boxter Fire Extinguisher Bracket which apparently does work with Adaptive Sports Seats can go under the passenger seat because of this issue with the airbag sensor? I certainly don’t want a 2.5 lb fire extinguisher under my feet as cramped as the driver compartment is already!
 
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Just a warning, NJ has outlawed open face helmets. Thats right you cant use an open face helmet in any AX, or driving event in NJ. They most likley will not be the last, so if your going to spend the money on a good helmet buy a closed face helmet. I am sure that in a few years that a "Hans" type of device will also be mandatory everywhere and you cant use those with open face helmets either.

A closed face helmet is much better protection, get used to it from the start and you will be fine.
 
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Eghad! Does anyone know if the SpeedTactics 2005-2010 Porsche 911-Caymen-Boxter Fire Extinguisher Bracket which apparently does work with Adaptive Sports Seats can go under the passenger seat because of this issue with the airbag sensor? I certainly don’t want a 2.5 lb fire extinguisher under my feet as cramped as the driver compartment is already!
I got my answer from the source:

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Our bracket will fit those seat. That is why we made it! Also it fits either seat. The bracket does not mount to the seat it self. It mounts were the seat mounts to the floor. So it will not interfere with the airbag sensor.
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I wear glasses too. I have a Simpson full face helmet and it works fine with eyeglasses or sunglasses. Put the helmet on and then put on your glasses.

I think the open face seems fine for AX but my track (BIR in MN) has a very fast straight (140+ in my 997) and I like the idea of a full face if I ever go off or hit a wall at that speed.

I wear gloves and driving shoes for DEs. I like that my hands never feel sweaty with the gloves on and the shoes really help you feel the pedals.
 
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Originally Posted by cesmorris
I’m in the market for my first DE/Autocross helmet and possibly installing a fire extinguisher in my ’07 997 C4S with adaptive sports seats. Based on what I’ve read, these adaptive sports seats don’t work with some of the F/E brackets I’ve seen online. I live in Northern Virginia and will head up to OG Racing on Friday to Saturday to look around and hopefully, at a minimum, come home with a helmet.

Does anyone have any recommendations for a good first helmet? I wear glasses, so in the helmets I’ve borrowed at Autocross events I have noticed a difference between helmets in which ones seem to allow for the shaft and earpiece of the glasses between my head and the helmet.

I’m new to DE, so is there anything else I should consider purchasing at OG or elsewhere before I head to the track?

Thank you for the guidance!
Craig
For your first DE (and all the ones to come) you should have a plastic covered container (won't get wet if it sits out in the rain while you're on the track) that fits into the backseat and put into it: torque wrench to check your (lug) nuts before running, appropriate sized sockets, blue painters tape to put your number on your car, quality air gauge, quart of oil, quart of coolant - Pentofrost, roll of blue shop towels, window cleaner (not Windex), perhaps an inexpensive (WalMart special) tool kit with the basics, a selection of fuses, a small folding chair (won't fit in container), hat for sun, dry shirt, shorts to change into (either due to weather or in response to a track induced "code brown" ), small notebook and pen to record tire pressures, conditions, thoughts, etc. and a selection of Clif Bars or the like. You may also want to consider a 5-7 gallon air tank you can fill at home to make tire pressure adjustments if your track doesn't have compressor service available. Hope that helps!
PS Full faced helmet and driving shoes!! Have fun!!
 
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Originally Posted by Steamboat
For your first DE (and all the ones to come) you should have a plastic covered container (won't get wet if it sits out in the rain while you're on the track) that fits into the backseat and put into it: torque wrench to check your (lug) nuts before running, appropriate sized sockets, blue painters tape to put your number on your car, quality air gauge, quart of oil, quart of coolant - Pentofrost, roll of blue shop towels, window cleaner (not Windex), perhaps an inexpensive (WalMart special) tool kit with the basics, a selection of fuses, a small folding chair (won't fit in container), hat for sun, dry shirt, shorts to change into (either due to weather or in response to a track induced "code brown" ), small notebook and pen to record tire pressures, conditions, thoughts, etc. and a selection of Clif Bars or the like. You may also want to consider a 5-7 gallon air tank you can fill at home to make tire pressure adjustments if your track doesn't have compressor service available. Hope that helps!
PS Full faced helmet and driving shoes!! Have fun!!
Holy cow Steamboat, you are a Star! Couple-o-stupid questions here. Why not Windex? What is "code brown"? (I'm assuming a car on the track lost some oil?). In lieu of air tank, is a lighter plug in tire pump fine?
 
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Holy cow Steamboat, you are a Star! Couple-o-stupid questions here. Why not Windex? What is "code brown"? (I'm assuming a car on the track lost some oil?). In lieu of air tank, is a lighter plug in tire pump fine?
Invisible Glass is far superior to Windex, imo, and available at WalMart.

Ehh, "code brown"; not exactly. It's what sort of happens when you go into a corner a little too early and a little too fast and the other side of the track is approaching with alarming rapidity before you've got your turning business done - and for the rest of the lap you're left wondering whether pharts really do have lumps.........you know.......

The reason for carrying fuses is so you can fix what breaks after you plug an air compressor into your car's electrical system. At least that was my experience which is why I now carry the tank - about $20 @ HF. If you go with a compressor, at least try it at home first!

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Originally Posted by Steamboat
For your first DE (and all the ones to come) you should have a plastic covered container (won't get wet if it sits out in the rain while you're on the track) that fits into the backseat and put into it: torque wrench to check your (lug) nuts before running, appropriate sized sockets, blue painters tape to put your number on your car, quality air gauge, quart of oil, quart of coolant - Pentofrost, roll of blue shop towels, window cleaner (not Windex), perhaps an inexpensive (WalMart special) tool kit with the basics, a selection of fuses, a small folding chair (won't fit in container), hat for sun, dry shirt, shorts to change into (either due to weather or in response to a track induced "code brown" ), small notebook and pen to record tire pressures, conditions, thoughts, etc. and a selection of Clif Bars or the like. You may also want to consider a 5-7 gallon air tank you can fill at home to make tire pressure adjustments if your track doesn't have compressor service available. Hope that helps!
PS Full faced helmet and driving shoes!! Have fun!!
i would add on top of that - always have extra dry socks and spare shoes, it sucks big time to spend all day with wet feet.
 
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Originally Posted by Steamboat
Invisible Glass is far superior to Windex, imo, and available at WalMart.

Ehh, "code brown"; not exactly. It's what sort of happens when you go into a corner a little too early and a little too fast and the other side of the track is approaching with alarming rapidity before you've got your turning business done - and for the rest of the lap you're left wondering whether pharts really do have lumps.........you know.......

The reason for carrying fuses is so you can fix what breaks after you plug an air compressor into your car's electrical system. At least that was my experience which is why I now carry the tank - about $20 @ HF. If you go with a compressor, at least try it at home first!

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Actually audibly laughed at that. Thanks again.
 
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Actually audibly laughed at that. Thanks again.
yep, code brown is kinda fun.

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Yep, my son sitting next to me and I agree that would merit a "code brown" in the Morris house! .
 
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lowpue,

The extinguisher mounts to sport and comfort seats. Will not work with any bucket seat...
I'm not time sensitive. When do you have sales? Cesmorris@gmail.com. Thanks.
 


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