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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mdrums
I own a 997.2S with PDK and my neighbor a few doors up has both the 911 and the Z06. My brother in law has a Z06 and I track with a lot of guys that have Z06's.

As a Porsche guy, formally a Vette guy, the Z06 hands down will romp a 997.2 and 997.2S on the street and the track. Even GT3RS guys have fits with Z06 drivers at the track. The Z06 is just plain friggin fast! At the track with the Vette you will need bigger brakes and better seats to hold you in if you want to tweak the Vette but the bang for buck in the Z06 is amazing.

If you want to do some Porsche factory interior customizing and have a more cival quiet street car and do not care about the lack of low end torque on the street then a Porsch 997 would be nice.

If you do not want a brand new 997 but still want the big power and a awesome street car go find a 2007 or 08 Turbo. You will have everything, power, great interior, class, clout and the Porsche you really seem to want.
what about C6 engines, 07-09 years, is it true that they blow often?
 
Old Jun 8, 2011 | 04:34 PM
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what about C6 engines, 07-09 years, is it true that they blow often?
The 2007 early engines were known to drop needle bearings from the rocker arms. Many people stay away from them.

I have never ran my car against any Porsche's on the track, but I do know that the Z is a beast and like a few people said, with brake upgrades and some decent seats the Z is a performance bargain.

As far as the sucky interior, I have replaced many parts with aftermarket parts from Down South Vettes, who is also a vendor here. I think their name here is DS Customs. Their parts are top quality and their customer service is beyond reproach.


Thanks for all the input so far.
 
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i went from 475 WHP/ 450 TQ in an 03 Cobra to the 05 C2S. I bought the 911 because I thought it would be better on a day to day basis. I miss the torque of the Cobra and that blower whine. After that, I miss nothing. The 911 is a better daily driver because I don't feel like I have to park way out or not drive in the rain etc. I don't know that this makes sense, just the way the car feels. Very nice, but built for weather, daily driving, etc. Overall, I'd do it again it a heart beat. Another plus for you would be picking up 2 extra seats. Even if they are small. BTW, I've driven an 07 Z and I think you'd miss the torque, but love the change. Good luck with your decision.
 
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Originally Posted by OmegaMan
The 2007 early engines were known to drop needle bearings from the rocker arms. Many people stay away from them.

I have never ran my car against any Porsche's on the track, but I do know that the Z is a beast and like a few people said, with brake upgrades and some decent seats the Z is a performance bargain.

As far as the sucky interior, I have replaced many parts with aftermarket parts from Down South Vettes, who is also a vendor here. I think their name here is DS Customs. Their parts are top quality and their customer service is beyond reproach.


Thanks for all the input so far.
Forgot to mention. I don't care what anybody says about the porsche's on the track. They are great. But, depending on the layout of the track, the Z would hold it's own with any car in the world and beat most all of them. I wouldn't get rid of the Z for the P-car being a better track car. Again, good luck.
 
Old Jun 8, 2011 | 07:57 PM
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As a closet Corvette guy, I gotta admit that I think they tend to be vastly underrated, especially on P-car blogs. I did a 3-day Corvette driving school at Spring Mountain in Nevada a number of years ago and we shared the track with SoCal P-Clubs and times were pretty even between evenly matched vehicles. The Z06 is very capable and while I haven't driven the Z1, I suspect in the hands of a capable driver, it would be a match for any GT3 or with a few tweaks, perhaps a Cup Car as well - (well maybe...).

Those Corvette's "under" the Z06 have many track issues: brakes, cooling, tires, etc. so stay away from them unless you're looking for a great looking and driving car that's perfectly happy on the regular road - which is how most of us drive anyway.

BTW, as another consideration, I'm still trying to figure out how to get two people and two sets of golf clubs into my turbo. That's not a problem in a Vette. Maybe they don't play much golf in Germany.......
 
Old Jun 8, 2011 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Steamboat
As a closet Corvette guy, I gotta admit that I think they tend to be vastly underrated, especially on P-car blogs. I did a 3-day Corvette driving school at Spring Mountain in Nevada a number of years ago and we shared the track with SoCal P-Clubs and times were pretty even between evenly matched vehicles. The Z06 is very capable and while I haven't driven the Z1, I suspect in the hands of a capable driver, it would be a match for any GT3 or with a few tweaks, perhaps a Cup Car as well - (well maybe...).

Those Corvette's "under" the Z06 have many track issues: brakes, cooling, tires, etc. so stay away from them unless you're looking for a great looking and driving car that's perfectly happy on the regular road - which is how most of us drive anyway.

BTW, as another consideration, I'm still trying to figure out how to get two people and two sets of golf clubs into my turbo. That's not a problem in a Vette. Maybe they don't play much golf in Germany.......

Thanks, I already have an 06 Z06 and before that I had an 04 coupe. The look of the Corvette just seems wrong if it is not a Z06. The ZR1 is nice, but for that money I am getting in to solid P Car range and I have had my share of Chevrolet service and treatment. Another reason I will not buy another Vette is because it is still 33% owned by the US Gov and that goes against all my beliefs.

I would really like to do one of the driving schools be it a Corvette one or a trip out to Skip Barber and drive the Porsche.

I suck so bad at golf that no one would play with me so I only need to get 1 set of clubs in there.

It is a difficult decision for sure.
 
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the Z06 hands down will romp a 997.2 and 997.2S on the street and the track. Even GT3RS guys have fits with Z06 drivers at the track. The Z06 is just plain friggin fast!
z06 stands no chance in a straight line with a modded Turbo . .
This was posted in the Turbo forum.

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ck-c6-zo6.html
 
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http://www.corvetteblog.com/archives/corvette-performance-stock-corvette-z06-has-10-second-14-mile.html

Really? Gt2RS shows 11.3 1/4 mile. I'd still rather have the p-car but give the z the respect it deserves.
 
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http://www.corvetteblog.com/archives/corvette-performance-stock-corvette-z06-has-10-second-14-mile.html

Really? Gt2RS shows 11.3 1/4 mile. I'd still rather have the p-car but give the z the respect it deserves.
Did you read the replies on that forum ?
 
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Originally Posted by yrralis1
Did you read the replies on that forum ?
I did. One guy that says no way. A time slip that shows the time and quite a few others that say they run mid 11's. I am not much into "blog racing" but, the video posted above shows the cars we're talking about. Only difference was it was a rolling start (huge advantage for a turbo car) and a highly modified GT2. My question still remains. How does anybody say with the times on the stock cars being so close that a Z06 won't stay with the GT2RS in a straight line? They are damn near identical. Again, not arguing which I'd rather have or which is a nicer car. Just performance.
 
Old Jun 9, 2011 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Recalcitrant
I did. One guy that says no way. A time slip that shows the time and quite a few others that say they run mid 11's. I am not much into "blog racing" but, the video posted above shows the cars we're talking about. Only difference was it was a rolling start (huge advantage for a turbo car) and a highly modified GT2. My question still remains. How does anybody say with the times on the stock cars being so close that a Z06 won't stay with the GT2RS in a straight line? They are damn near identical. Again, not arguing which I'd rather have or which is a nicer car. Just performance.
i kept reading a bit about Z06 and honestly i do not know now what is all that deal about guys blowing their engines. one guy on rennlist says his buddy went over 5 stock engines on his C6 car already. it is crazy.
 
Old Jun 9, 2011 | 09:53 AM
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I currently have a C6 Z06. I like it and it has good performance. I know all about the shortcomings of the Corvette such as the crappy interior and less than stellar paint and materials. These are made up for the fact that the right foot is connected to a 7.0L with 505/475 tq. So the trade off is justified.

I would like to get some opinions from anyone who has spent some time in both vehicles.

The Z06 is a completely different car when compared to the base Corvette. Handeling, acceleration, ride etc, are all substantially different.

I absolutely LOVE the 911, and I had plenty of pictures and posters on my wall growing up. The looks, the styling, the fit and finish, etc. Just perfect.

If I had the Z and a 911 side by side and I had to chose, I am fairly certain that I would leave in the 911.

I am looking for a comparison between the Z06 and the 911 S and the 4S (997.2).

How is the ride, interior noise, comfort, etc compared to the Z06?

Would it make a better daily driver?

Is the performance similar? I know what the numbers from the magazines are, but I would like some real world comparisons. The Z06 can do 0-60 in 3.6 or so in the hands of s good driver, but reality is another thing and most people can not launch a car consistently.

I am seriously considering ditching the Z06 for a 997.2S or 4S but at the same time, I might be waiting for the new model to see what it has to offer.

I prefer understatement to flashy and quality & value are also important to me.....and the 911 seems to be much more sophisticated when compared to the Z.

I am also definitely considering a PDK vs a 6 speed.

In the perfect world, it would be a 997.2S or 4S with the PDK, Sports chrono + pkg and a few others.
I hope this makes sense, and I appreciate your opinions.
I have had both cars and daily driver wise maybe a 2s or 4s might suit you better?, but you can't compare those models to a Z06 the Z06 blows those models away in looks and performance IMO. The Porsches that you would have to compare to the Z06 are the GT2 and GT3 and I don't think anyone could argue the build quality of the Porsche, and as the saying goes you get what you pay for, but the buy in certainly is expensive for the Porsche. I currently track my GT2 set up by TPC racing and I absolutely love it but my ZR1 and my Z06 are certainly very capable in thier own right on any track and (stock to stock) the Chevrolet could of run with or beat my GT2 on any track, so I wouldn't sell the Chevy too short as they are super fast awesome cars. One more note, about not hanging out with guys that drag race, (joke right?) you might find out drag racers don't drag their knuckles and are pretty good guys in their own right, as racers are racers. I have met many great people at drag strips and one of my good friends (Mike Levitas of TPC Racing) that I road race and ride motorcycles with I met because of drag racing, Mike is also one of the winningest Porsche road racers in the country as well as one hell of a drag racer. I am glad I don't judge people like you do!
 

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If you are a Vette driver, a Porsche will take some getting used to. I owned 6 Vettes in a row before buying a new Carrera in 2003. Loved the Porsche but sold it to buy a one of the first 2006 ZO6's (if you are a "Vette-person", you understand why I had to get the ZO6). The charm of big torque and the rumble of the car quickly gave way a desire for better street manners. Sold the ZO6 a year later to get back into a Porsche. Have had the C2S for four years now and still look forward to driving it every time. The precise steering, the handling, the way the car feels as it moves through traffic, the sound of the engine as it winds through the gears, and the quality of the interior are things that impress me every time when comparing the C2S to the ZO6. If you drive a Vette, you are probably a sports car enthusiast. If you are an enthusiast, you would be doing yourself a major dis-service if you don't own a 911 at least once.
 
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I think the speed and track worthiness of the Z06 is an argument that has long been put to rest. They are clearly quite capable vehicles in the right hands.

Having driven a buddies heavily modded Z06 the excitement (and terror) of that car is unmatched in any other street car I've had the opportunity to drive. I, for one, much prefer the refined experience and styling (personal preference) of my 997S (w/GT3 kit) over that of a Z06. I've been daily driving mine for three years now and after even after the worst day in the office or otherwise I still get a ****-eating grin on my face every time I turn my left hand and hear the engine come to life.

I was 24 and single (ie, no responsibilities other than work) when I purchased it and after confirming I could fit golf clubs in the back seat, my decision was made - two people, two sets of clubs, two overnight bags! I live in Chicago and this is my only car so I'm driving it rain, snow or shine and wouldn't trade it for anything (other than a GT3).

As for the PDK decision, its clearly the "faster" option, however, I think it takes a bit of the fun out of the experience. I couldn't imagine not going through the gears into a corner though I understand/appreciate the argument for faster lap times. In any event, stepping out of a Z06 and into a 997S its going to be slower, period. I think it's more than compensated for in every other aspect.
 
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Originally Posted by jamie furman
I have had both cars and daily driver wise maybe a 2s or 4s might suit you better?, but you can't compare those models to a Z06 the Z06 blows those models away in looks and performance IMO... One more note, about not hanging out with guys that drag race, (joke right?) you might find out drag racers don't drag their knuckles and are pretty good guys in their own right, as racers are racers. ..I am glad I don't judge people like you do!
i re-read the op's post and didn't see any judgmental statements.. or anything refering to any drag racing.. what am i missing here?

oh, i also can't agree that the look of the C6 blows away the 911
 

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