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Old Jun 29, 2012 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by turbotol
Hi,

I am doubting between signing up for the 2-day High Performance and the 3-day racing school at Skip Barber's Lime Rock venue. Has anybody done both and willinng to share their opinion?

I am hoping to learn how to properly heel-toe shift, trail braking, etc. in preparation for some track days with my 997.1 4S


The 2-day Porsche Performance course is another option, although logistically a bit more challenging (in addition to them not having much availability in the next 2 months)

Thank you

turbotol
Cindy bought the three-day racing course for me as an anniversary present back in the eighties. I can endorse it highly. If their curriculum is the same now, the three-day course is done in open-wheel formula cars whereas the two-day is done in sports cars of some type. They used to have one and two-day courses in open-wheel cars but they were pretty restrictive because that's just not long enough. More like a chance to brag you drove one rather than actually learning how to do it correctly.

I'd already been racing sports cars casually for nearly twenty years and still learned a lot. Learning the techniques in an open-wheel car is much more effective. More easily done and better skill retention. In an open-wheel car you can see the suspension responding to your inputs and the tire changing color as different parts of the tread heat differently as you ask for this or that. All the things I had to picture in a sports car became very evident in the open-wheel car.

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More track time is always better. Go with the 3 day course. Good luck
 
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I did the one day coarse in the open wheel cars,,,, it was fun but will not tranlate too well to driving the 911.... Pedals in the open wheels are so close if you are not careful it s easy to roll on the throttle while braking... but lots of fun, nice track. For all that money wondering if someone would just suggest tarck time with your car somewhere else...Let us know.
 
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Originally Posted by turbotol
Hi,

I am doubting between signing up for the 2-day High Performance and the 3-day racing school at Skip Barber's Lime Rock venue. Has anybody done both and willinng to share their opinion?

I am hoping to learn how to properly heel-toe shift, trail braking, etc. in preparation for some track days with my 997.1 4S


The 2-day Porsche Performance course is another option, although logistically a bit more challenging (in addition to them not having much availability in the next 2 months)

Thank you

turbotol
Are you coming all the way from So.CA as your loc suggests? I'm thinking too far a trip. Wow, are there not closer SB venues?

I did the 2day HP by myself (& the 1 day HP with my wife). Fun and informative for a newbie but IMO the time in the car was not long enough to hone in any one particular skill. I gave up heel-toe only because time ran out - oh well. I was disappointed with the choice of cars, they were decent performers - lexus is-f, bmw 3, lotus exige, cayman & 911, but they were limited and not necessarily available for each practice run and a few times some of them crapped out. Also you are in competition with your group for the better car and on occasion I had to settle. Plus anyone behind the curve in driving skills (like my wife) can bog the group down and lose valuable drive time - ya never now...

So I'm thinking the 3 day racing series and or the Porsche performance class. Perhaps some of those issues are eliminated...

Would like to hear what you choose and how you make out.
A
 
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