Substitute for Porsche?
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I prefer the Porsche, that is why I bought one, part of the reason was I already have a Shelby Mustang so I wanted something different than the tire shredding V-8's in American Cars. The Vette is a lot of Car for the money, I will wait to see it in person and drive one. For some reason I think I will end up staying with Porsche, but you never know, I am open to other brands. I just bought mine so it will be a few years anyway.
Based on looks alone I think Jaguar did a great Job with the F Type, I would probably buy that over the Vette as well.
Based on looks alone I think Jaguar did a great Job with the F Type, I would probably buy that over the Vette as well.
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Funny thread. The new C7 is a beast, well equipped for ~$60k (2LT + Z51). Will it take a bite out of Porsche money? Probably not.
I mean, if somebody wants performance for $60k - there is a 'Vette, CTS-V, S4, M3, ZL-1, GT500, etc..., if somebody wants even a base model C2, they are looking at almost twice that amount. I'd say the person who wants the 911 is after something else that a Corvette may not be able to provide (see GT-R/911). For some, their minds are already made up, sometimes without even knowing there was a new Corvette emerging.
I'm becoming increasingly drawn towards to the C7, and am finding it difficult to stay away until the Z06 comes out.
If you're after a badge, there is no substitute. If you're after performance, it's hard to ignore the 'Vette. And now that the 'Vette and Viper come with traditional manuals, and the Turbo/GT3 are not, I'd say those who are after performance, or 'fun', may be swayed towards the other side...
Good times...
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"What's in a name" the say.
Ask anyone what comes to mind when you say you own a Porsche.
Now ask that same person what come to mind when you say you own a Chevy.
Doesn't matter which is faster. I've seen modified Civics kill a Porsche.
And in the end, which depreciates more?
I'll just leave it there.
Ask anyone what comes to mind when you say you own a Porsche.
Now ask that same person what come to mind when you say you own a Chevy.
Doesn't matter which is faster. I've seen modified Civics kill a Porsche.
And in the end, which depreciates more?
I'll just leave it there.
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There are some pretty unflattering assumptions people make about Porsche owners as well. Worse w/Ferrari and Lamborghini. Having met owners of all, you realize that like the any people you come across, some are cool and others are idiots but it oftentimes has little to do w/the car they drive, what they do for a living, race, religion, etc. Wouldn't prevent me from getting back into a Vette. Now those taillights are another matter...
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personally, I think Chevy did a great job with the new Stingray (with the exceptions of the tail lights). I'd be curious to see how it drives. Still love the Porsche but would give the Stingray some serious consideration in the future. Unfortunately, I still need the 4 seats and for me, the C4S is perfect.
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I'm always getting into this argument with the guy that sits next to me at work.
When it comes down to it. The Chevy is always preceeded by the qualifier "for the money".
Porsche's on the other hand makes no compromises and "there is no subistitue".
When it comes down to it. The Chevy is always preceeded by the qualifier "for the money".
Porsche's on the other hand makes no compromises and "there is no subistitue".
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I will always have it in my head where Jeremy Clarkson tested the ZR1 Vette a while back and he pushed on the rear part of the car showing that it was plastic and cheap. He loved the performance, and yes the performance is amazing but overall the car is cheap.
Just my .02 not trying to start a fight.
Just my .02 not trying to start a fight.
I get what you're saying though. Seats, interior, shared switch gear, etc. But that is why, when comparing performance levels, it is 25-50% less expensive.
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For me nostalgia are 993's
Oh yes. The haughtiness displayed by some at Meet & Greets/Cars & Coffee, etc. is obvious. I've actually found that very often the guy with the coolest, or at least most expensive car there is often the most laid-back and approachable.
To tell you the truth, for the most part the Porsche and Corvette guys stand around with each other and talk about their own cars. The only Porsches I ever look at are the old ones. It's a little nostalgic to look at ones of the same vintage as the '69 911T I had years ago.
To tell you the truth, for the most part the Porsche and Corvette guys stand around with each other and talk about their own cars. The only Porsches I ever look at are the old ones. It's a little nostalgic to look at ones of the same vintage as the '69 911T I had years ago.
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IMHO one of the greatest appeals of the 911 is the classic, ageless design that has become iconic. The Vette has gone through many different iterations. I personally do not find the C7 visually appealing. I am sure that many will.
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It’s safe to say that the big three, back in their day (before 2008), could have produced a limited production supercar to rival if not eclipse any of the exotics IF revenue/sales volume were irrelevant. But they are. And then there is the perception that such cars are only produced by foreign manufacturers, so why bother swimming upstream. Both companies know what they’re doing. The longevity of both models indicates that despite their issues (actual or perceived) the manufacturers truly know their customers. There are Chevy owners who are not dissuaded by the less than premium interior of a Z06, and there are Poschephiles that don't think twice about paying $300 for embossed crests or $400 for rear footwell lighting. And then there’s me who enjoyed owning both despite both of those issues (although I buy used so someone else eats the cost of deviated stitching and colored seatbelts). There really isn't a comparison between the 2 because they are not apples-to-apples sorta vehicles. Thankfully so.
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You just dont get it.
If that was really the most important thing performance for the least amount of money then why not just get a Mitsubishi, Honda, Subaru and bolt on some mods. I mean "for the money" they can offer better "performance" then either Chevy or Pcar right?
So for you to get "X amount of performance" you shouldn't be getting either.
If that was really the most important thing performance for the least amount of money then why not just get a Mitsubishi, Honda, Subaru and bolt on some mods. I mean "for the money" they can offer better "performance" then either Chevy or Pcar right?
So for you to get "X amount of performance" you shouldn't be getting either.
What does that even mean? It sounds to me like you're saying, "I paid tens of thousands more for a slower car with nicer leather and paint," and are trying to justify it with meaningless platitudes.
To me, "no compromises" means the manufacturer builds a car to a quality standard and prices it based on how much it costs to build.
I think "for the money" means that the manufacturer builds to a performance standard, and makes compromises in other areas to meet their desired performance/price point.
There is nothing wrong with either approach. Buyers in both cases know what they want. You look at it as getting X amount of quality. I look it as getting X amount of performance.
To me, "no compromises" means the manufacturer builds a car to a quality standard and prices it based on how much it costs to build.
I think "for the money" means that the manufacturer builds to a performance standard, and makes compromises in other areas to meet their desired performance/price point.
There is nothing wrong with either approach. Buyers in both cases know what they want. You look at it as getting X amount of quality. I look it as getting X amount of performance.