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Old Sep 20, 2013 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by daberlin
I have a 997.2. Factory PSE. Factory SC. There are two switches. Sport. Super Sport.
Super Sport, or Sport Plus? So no PSE button on yours?
 
Old Sep 20, 2013 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by GS997S
Super Sport, or Sport Plus? So no PSE button on yours?
Correction. Not Super Sport, Sport Plus.

And no, there is no PSE button (which looks like a twin exhaust pipe). On a 997.2 with Factory SC and PSE, PSE open/closed is controlled via the SC.
 
Old Sep 20, 2013 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by daberlin
Correction. Not Super Sport, Sport Plus.

And no, there is no PSE button (which looks like a twin exhaust pipe). On a 997.2 with Factory SC and PSE, PSE open/closed is controlled via the SC.
Thanks for the clarification. Really glad I didn't get SC, especially since I don't have PDK.
 
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Originally Posted by GS997S
Thanks for the clarification. Really glad I didn't get SC, especially since I don't have PDK.
It is easy to disconnect the wiring to keep PSE 'ON' all the time, ala Gundo. This is how my car is set up, and I don't think it is too noisy. I could not imagine a PDK car without SC.
 
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Originally Posted by daberlin
It is easy to disconnect the wiring to keep PSE 'ON' all the time, ala Gundo. This is how my car is set up, and I don't think it is too noisy. I could not imagine a PDK car without SC.
Yep, that is a way to "fix" the problem, and I agree I wouldn't want PDK without SC. I think Porsche fixed this issue on the 991. Pretty sure on 991 you get a Sport, Sport Plus, and PSE button, even with SC.
 
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Hehehe supersport is for the tires
 
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Hehehe supersport is for the tires
yeah, thanks. haha. Got those too.
 
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I had it installed on 2009 997.2 with sport and it included the button.
 
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I had it installed on 2009 997.2 with sport and it included the button.
Interesting. I thought there was a button/switch with PSE with SC on 997.2 also, but daberlin says no. I can't confirm since my GTS doesn't have Sport Chrono.
 
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Originally Posted by daberlin
Correction. Not Super Sport, Sport Plus.

And no, there is no PSE button (which looks like a twin exhaust pipe). On a 997.2 with Factory SC and PSE, PSE open/closed is controlled via the SC.
This is really odd. I've been shopping 997.2 Ss and GTSs, and I've seen lots of PDK cars that were factory-equipped with both SC and PSE. They've all had all three buttons: Sport, Sport+, and PSE. As far as I can tell, that third PSE button is there for the specific purpose of activating PSE without activating anything else in the Sport mode. What has been missing with this three-way combination is the separate PASM button, as I assume that function is solely controlled by the Sport/Sport+ buttons. Have I been hallucinating? The only difference on manual-equipped cars with SC and PSE has been that the PASM button returns, and the "Sport+" button disappears...
 

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Originally Posted by 1analguy
This is really odd. I've been shopping 997.2 Ss and GTSs, and I've seen lots of PDK cars that were factory-equipped with both SC and PSE. They've all had all three buttons: Sport, Sport+, and PSE. As far as I can tell, that third PSE button is there for the specific purpose of activating PSE without activating anything else in the Sport mode. What has been missing with this three-way combination is the separate PASM button, as I assume that function is solely controlled by the Sport/Sport+ buttons. Have I been hallucinating? The only difference on manual-equipped cars with SC and PSE has been that the PASM button returns, and the "Sport+" button disappears...
Pretty sure you are correct about separate buttons for Sport, Sport Plus, and PSE. Can't confirm the other stuff you mentioned because I have manual with no Sport Chrono. I do have a separate PASM button and PSE button. If daberlin doesn't have a separate PSE button, my guess is that his PSE was not factory installed and the dealer installed it later without the on/off button. His sig says his car is a 997 not a 997S, but I don't see why Porsche would not install the PSE button just because it is not a S.
 

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Originally Posted by GS997S
Pretty sure you are correct about separate buttons for Sport, Sport Plus, and PSE. Can't confirm the other stuff you mentioned because I have manual with no Sport Chrono. I do have a separate PASM button and PSE button. If daberlin doesn't have a separate PSE button, my guess is that his PSE was not factory installed and the dealer installed it later without the on/off button. His sig says his car is a 997 not a 997S, but I don't see why Porsche would not install the PSE button just because it is not a S.
Dealer install gave me three buttons on my 2011 CAB.
 
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Originally Posted by windboat
Dealer install gave me three buttons on my 2011 CAB.
Yes they can, but some owners choose not to get it because the installation is cheaper without it. Nonetheless, you confirm that the 997.2 does have a PSE button, even if Sport Chrono is installed.
 
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