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cool flash Sep 18, 2014 10:40 AM

How to get that GT3 shifter feel?
 
Hi,

I sat in a 2009 GT3 the other day (showroom floor) and just shifted through the gears (engine not running). I noticed that the shifts are so much more precise and tight than my 2010 Carrera 2. It felt like the shift block actually had shift gates.

Anyway, what do I need to do to get that GT3 shifter/shift block feel?

Thanks.

Regards,

CF

mattyf Sep 18, 2014 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by cool flash (Post 4198061)
Hi,

I sat in a 2009 GT3 the other day (showroom floor) and just shifted through the gears (engine not running). I noticed that the shifts are so much more precise and tight than my 2010 Carrera 2. It felt like the shift block actually had shift gates.

Anyway, what do I need to do to get that GT3 shifter/shift block feel?

Thanks.

Regards,

CF

There are aftermarket shifters you can install. Search Numatic Engineering, they have pretty good reviews, no personal experience. You can also install GT3 or cup car shift cables which are stiffer than C2 cables. Lastly you can upgrade transmission mounts and engine mounts. The last two options can transmit slightly more NVH into the cabin, so I've read.

cool flash Sep 18, 2014 11:50 AM

Thanks for your reply.

I am aware of Numatic shift block but not sure if that would give same feel as the GT3.

I dont think that cables played a role. After all car was stationary, engine not even running. I was just "dry shifting" so to speak...

It felt like the GT3 shift block had shift gates. Just a very precise range of motion from neutral into 1 and then from 1 to 2 etc.

CF

cab83_750 Sep 18, 2014 06:39 PM

I thought there were some threads here wherein they mentioned that you can actually buy the Porsche GT shifters (like from SunCoast). I also recall that there were others who preferred the factory GT shifters over the factory SSK.

Search. I am sure my memory is not failing me.

sneakybear Sep 19, 2014 04:55 AM

You can get one of the GT3 shifter kits. About 10% shorter than C2 and aluminium rather than plastic bushings which makes the difference you can feel.
Part number is: 997 424 010 91

cool flash Sep 19, 2014 07:30 AM

Great info. Thanks a lot guys!

Now I just hope that the price is decent. hilarious

Regards,

CF

SuncoastRyan Sep 19, 2014 09:33 AM

We have the GT3 shift consoles located on our website here:

http://www.suncoastparts.com/product//997SCU.html

Sometimes the GT3 will come with the factory short shift kit which is also another popular upgrade:

http://www.suncoastparts.com/product//X99742498300.html

Please let us know if there is anything we can help you out with!

cab83_750 Sep 19, 2014 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by cool flash (Post 4198567)
Great info. Thanks a lot guys!

Now I just hope that the price is decent. hilarious

Regards,

CF




USA prices between $415.00-$430.00. Since you are local, how much can you buy it for? :)

cool flash Sep 20, 2014 01:16 AM

I have seen the part from an online shop for 350€ which is roughly 470 US$.

I am very local, about 2 miles from Zuffenhausen in fact...:D

CF

cool flash Sep 30, 2014 02:24 PM

I just installed the GT3 shift console and adjusted the shift cables a bit. These are the original ones but probably stretched after the 55k miles that are on the car.

Anyway, changing gears feels more smooth and just a bit more tight.

My advice: adjust the cables first and keep the old console unless its worn out or anything.

cab83_750 Sep 30, 2014 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cool flash (Post 4205565)
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My advice: adjust the cables first and keep the old console unless its worn out or anything.

Thanks. Your advice is actually what I have been planning on doing. In addition to adjusting the cable, I want to re-grease the moving parts of the original shifter.

Now, all I have to do is get the shift alignment tool without spending more for shipping than the actual tool price. hilarious

Hoen Oct 2, 2014 09:43 AM

Shift cables are prone to breaking and over time feel worn but you don't really notice as it occurs over such a long time / miles. There is a new part number as the issue has been fixed (we hope) but something to consider for 6 speed cars. There are aftermarket ones with lifetime guarantee from Numeric Racing.

cab83_750 Oct 2, 2014 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoen (Post 4206768)
Shift cables are prone to breaking and over time feel worn but you don't really notice as it occurs over such a long time / miles. There is a new part number as the issue has been fixed (we hope) but something to consider for 6 speed cars. There are aftermarket ones with lifetime guarantee from Numeric Racing.

Is the "new part number" a Porsche-upgraded cable? Or are you referring to the Numeric cables? Can you please clarify?


Also, in the current setup, the "stress" of shifting results to the cable getting stretched. If one were to buy the beefy Numeric, where would the stress go? In other words, would one end up breaking parts on the shifter housing AND by the tranny (i.e., where both ends of the cable connect to). I have not been under the car and in the shifter housing to investigate where the cable ends connect, so I don't know if the issue changes from "cable-breakage" to "mounting-point breakage." I asked this question before in a separate thread but did not get any feedback.

Hoen Oct 2, 2014 01:42 PM

Yes, Porsche part has been revised but the numerics are the way to go. good question on where does the stress go, no idea. But I don't think I would be concerned with it, most stress one would assume be now in the shift lever itself and probably takes a lot to break that. There is lots of plastic pieces once you pull the shifter cover off though!

cab83_750 Oct 2, 2014 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoen (Post 4206992)
Yes, Porsche part has been revised but the numerics are the way to go. good question on where does the stress go, no idea. But I don't think I would be concerned with it, most stress one would assume be now in the shift lever itself and probably takes a lot to break that. There is lots of plastic pieces once you pull the shifter cover off though!

Very interesting to know that the factory cables were actually revised. Do you happen to know what year they revised it? Part number, perhaps?

This probably explains why only 2 people responded to my thread regarding my query of breakage experience.


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