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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Marc997GT3
Can someone clarify the weights of the

Sotck 997S lobster forks vs the GT3 (997) stock ...
Porsche Factory Carrera S – 100 lbs, 0 oz.
8.0 x 19 22 lbs. 4 oz.

11.0 x 19 27 lbs. 12 oz.

Porsche GT3 – 110 lbs, 4 oz.
8.5 x 19 24 lbs 5 oz
12.0 x 19 30 lbs 13 oz
 
Old Apr 24, 2007 | 02:44 PM
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Thanks...well its obvious the GT3 wheel is heavier for a few reason but mainly it is a larger wheel in width both front and rear as well it wears a much lower profile tire so some additional strengthening is probably another culprit
 
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Originally Posted by Marc997GT3
Thanks...well its obvious the GT3 wheel is heavier for a few reason but mainly it is a larger wheel in width both front and rear as well it wears a much lower profile tire so some additional strengthening is probably another culprit
Larger wheel yes but profile of tires are the same -

235/35-19 front
295/30-19 or 305/30-19 rear
 
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Originally Posted by elh0102
...As for weight, I get amused at the folks who worry about a few pounds of extra wheel weight. You would think they were in the running for the Rolex championship. And best I can tell, there is a lot of conflicting thought about the actual advantage of less unsprung weight. Seems a lot of the accepted ratios of unsprung weight v. sprung weight, are now being almost conclusively proven wrong. The driver may feel it more, but the impact on acceleration and speed just isn't much different than the same weight reduction from a few less Big Macs.
You left a lot of wiggle room by stating “best I can tellâ€, “almost conclusively†and “just isn’t much different†but I would still be interested in seeing the data that is proving that reducing unsprung (and rotating) weight is comparable to reducing an equal amount of sprung weight.
 
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GT3 wheels on a 997 are hot. I have been looking for a black set. Good luck.

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Originally Posted by C2S4ME
You left a lot of wiggle room by stating “best I can tellâ€, “almost conclusively†and “just isn’t much different†but I would still be interested in seeing the data that is proving that reducing unsprung (and rotating) weight is comparable to reducing an equal amount of sprung weight.
There is far from any confilct about reduction of unsprung weight study some physics and get back to me..no worse enemy to the car then unsprung weight...unsprung weight reduction 4x sprung...it is very hard to reduce unsprung weight PCCB helps alot and using lighter weight wheels as well...
I agree for street use and the way most of us use the car do we actually notice? who knows?
 
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Originally Posted by Marc997GT3
There is far from any confilct about reduction of unsprung weight study some physics and get back to me..no worse enemy to the car then unsprung weight...unsprung weight reduction 4x sprung...it is very hard to reduce unsprung weight PCCB helps alot and using lighter weight wheels as well...
I agree for street use and the way most of us use the car do we actually notice? who knows?
I understand and can appreciate reductions in unsprung (and rotating) weight but wanted elh0102 to defend this statement.
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...best I can tell, there is a lot of conflicting thought about the actual advantage of less unsprung weight. Seems a lot of the accepted ratios of unsprung weight v. sprung weight, are now being almost conclusively proven wrong…
I wasn’t aware that they had receded some of the laws of physics.
 
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Originally Posted by C2S4ME
I understand and can appreciate reductions in unsprung (and rotating) weight but wanted elh0102 to defend this statement.

I wasn’t aware that they had receded some of the laws of physics.
Fellows, I'm not interested in an argument; didn't mean to start one. Obviously, math doesn't lie. The problem is, it often doesn't say much of practical application either. I went through several sets of lighter wheels/tires on two different cars. The influence on the feel of the car in handling was noticeable (better transmission). But, the impact on either speed or acceleration was negligible, if any. My only point, and it was probably poorly offered, is that unless you are in this track stuff at a very advanced and competitive level, weight need not be your primary criteria for wheel selection. I found four or five articles through internet searches that offered some quantitative data supporting this position.
 
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I had 19'' techarts on my car and I switched back to the lobsters. I can not stress how different the car feels. It is literally night and day for me. It was a completely different car and extremely noticeable for daily driving. Its not a matter of negligable speed. It's a matter of driving enjoyment. Thats the reason most people buy high end autos. For the enjoyment. For me, heavier wheel, less enjoyment. GO LAKERS!!!!!!!!!
 
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some old pics of my car...but you can take a idea
 
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Originally Posted by Marc997GT3
I dont understand how the rear on a 997 weras the same size tyre as the GT3 and TT wheel which is 1" wider in the rear..
I think that's becuase Michelin Sport Cups only comes in 305/30/19. I have them mounted on my 2nd set of lobsters.
 
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I personally don't understand the logic behind buying a new set of wheels that are heavy cast units that come on a different Porsche. I could see the logic if they were the best wheels available for our cars - but they aren't, not by a long stretch. For about the same money, you can get an aftermarket set of forged wheels, which will be lighter (better performing), stronger, and a better fit (12" is just too wide even for 305s - 11" is the right size). Whatever one likes one should get - but don't be fooled that because the wheel comes on a GT3 that it's a great wheel...
 
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I am not disagreeing that the GT3 wheels might not be the best wheel, but some might just want a different look than what came on their car, keeping it stock looking and not necessarily worried about weight. I have really only seen few cars that I like with after market forged wheels. Again this is just an opinion. And how are 305's too small for 12" rears. They don't appear to be stretched nor does anything rub.
 
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