Looks awesome man, it'll look a lot meaner once you drop it.

 

It looks like a GT3 front not a GT3 cup.

 

Car is unreal man! Im happy for you! I cant wait to see it! Good luck with that ride!!!

 

Car looks amazing! I love the look of the GT3 bumper with the stock rear-end.
But like "TD in DC" was saying, have you noticed anything different by only using the GT3 front bumper?
I have heard mixed opinions on the necessity of a rear wing to balance stability of the car at high speeds.

 

To be honest I really am not that crazy when I am driving. I drive around 70-90 on the highway and have not really noticed anything different. I have only really had the car 2 weeks though...
I figured the stock rear spoiler that comes up would be sufficient if i needed drag over the rear.
I never really thought about adding a rear spoiler and have a hard time justifying the 3K for the spoiler I somewhat like.

 

Here is the problem: You may never notice the problem until it is too late. If you experience this high-speed oversteer, it will "magnify" your steering inputs. Let's say that you are cruising along at 80 and an animal or some obstruction suddenly is in your lane. Your instincts will take over and you may try some evasive measure. If your car is balanced aerodynamically, you will be in the best position to survive the event. If you have set up your car in a manner that can create high-speed oversteer, then you could spin when you attempt to turn since your front end will grip more than the rear of the car. Why tempt fate? You like the RS wing . . . so why not go with an aerodynamic package that has been developed after extensive wind tunnel testing? Think of it this way: If the Porsche engineers felt that a big assed fixed wing was the proper balance for the front bumper you now have on your car, what makes you think doing without it will be "okay"?

Again, my comments are meant to be helpful and not arrogant or condescending.

 

^ haha and there you have it... the perfect way to validate a mod without feeling guilty at all!

 

Ed Zachary.

 

Sorry guys but aerodynamics DO NOTHING under 100 mph. Well in terms of "evasive manueveurs" A slippery car is ideal under 100 and one with some balanced downforce is ideal above. So yes in short the best setup is to have the car balanced front to rear with a proper wing BUT you will not EVER lose control because of it under 100 mph. Thats silly. Thats science. I vote for rear wing and wouldnt do it any other way on my car. My advice to WIZO is to see for himself. A couple of 120-140 mile runs should tell him. Once again im all about the rear wing but if your not going those speeds does it matter???? It's all relative : )

 

It is not silly at all. Aero is not some kind of magic switch that only comes on at a certain speed. If what you were saying were true, then the rear spoiler coming up at 70 mph and retracting at 45 would be a total farce. You are correct that the aero factor increases with speed, but you are incorrect to state that there is no impact at 80 mph and above, which is what I posited. It is all a question of balance. Just as I did not say you would definitely spin, you cannot reasonably say that "you will not EVER lose control because of it under 100 mph." That is silly.

Again, though, I say to you. If the aero packages were developed ofter extensive testing in wind tunnels, who are we to say that 1/2 of the entire package is irrelevant. That is not logical.

I agree with you that it is all relative. And keep in mind that I said merely that "you would not really know that it was a problem until it is too late," which I firmly believe. Now, if you were talking about putting on the rear wing without the front bumper, I would be less concerned because If you got understeer, you could slow down and deal with it. But oversteer is an entirely other matter.

 

How long does it take for the car to get to 100 from 70. Wouldnt it make sense for the spoiler to already be fully up and ready. Thats why it STARTS to come up at 70. Losing control at 80 becasue of aerodynamics im sticking to my guns and what Ive seen and heard at and around the racetrack. Above 100 is where the magic happens.

 

I'm not interested in a pissing match, but I spend a lot of time around the race track too (w2w club racing, as well as 44 spec where aero is crucial ), and I'm here to tell you that the aero effect builds gradually, not at some magic switch at only above 100 mph. I agree that the magnitude of importance increases with speed, but if you regularly go 80, as the original poster said, then is it really a stretch of the imagination to believe that you might hit triple digits once in awhile? Also, what if you want to take the car to a DE, WHICH I HIGHLY RECOMMEND and imagine you would as well? There you will hit triple digits and it could matter.

To me, again, the most important point is that you will not know there is a problem until it is too late. Driving for a year without a problem doesn't confirm that you never would have a problem. Your car, your risk.

 

Agreed good point. I dont want to start a pissing match either and yes aerodynamics do gradually change with speed. Drivers ed I would say is a great idea and a wing would definetly be a welcome add.

 

I just did my first mod last night. Not nearly as pretty but very important if you drive in areas where you might bottom out. Plus, the price is right at below $90. Cracking an oilpan would not be cool.

I also got this cool new flashlight that recharges in the cigarette lighter. It glows blue while it is charging. But still not as cool as a front bumper or rear wing.

 

Oil pan protector is a must for any lowered 911! I need one too! Wizo take notes buddy you need this plate if you lower your car : )