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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 03:51 PM
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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 04:51 PM
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Some forum members have a cow when I say Ferrari owners care more for the image than performance and not many Ferrari owners track their cars. From my experience that isn't far from the truth, seems like you have the same experience as well. Porsche and BMW owners seems to be more well informed than the other brands.
FWIW, I'm willing to bet that most Aston owners don't track their cars either, and it's not just because the cars lean a bit to the GT side of the spectrum.
 
Old Sep 13, 2013 | 09:06 AM
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Why would anyone track one of these cars? I'm a Porsche owner considering a switch and if I do I'll never even consider taking it to a track. There are other cars better suited to that.

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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by deckman
Why would anyone track one of these cars? I'm a Porsche owner considering a switch and if I do I'll never even consider taking it to a track. There are other cars better suited to that.

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I have hadmy v8v for almost two years and have done 3 track days with it so far. I am no expert by any means, in fact I am closer to a novice. I run HPDE with driving schools at local tracks. The AM is a blast in general to drive on the streets and even more fun on the track. It handles great, sounds awesome and it is fun to learn how to drive it closer to the max than you will ever see on the roads. Yes, a Porsche is much better suited to track days, but the AM is no slouch and I personally did not buy this awesome piece of engineering to admire it in the garage and take it to the store for groceries.

I have made a few mods (tires, brakes, rotors, exhaust) that have increased the durability and usage at the track to my liking and will continue running it. I know there are a few others that do it often as well. Additionally, AMR and TRG are fairly active on the US circuits with Astons and they have done quite well as of late. In fact an Aston won the most recent GTS race in Sonoma. Not sure that means much, but its better than finishing last... http://www.world-challenge.com/news/...php?story=3276

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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 09:27 AM
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I plan to take my V12V to the track at least once. The consumables are a bit too expensive for me to make a habit out of it though.
 
Old Sep 13, 2013 | 09:32 AM
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FWIW, I'm willing to bet that most Aston owners don't track their cars either, and it's not just because the cars lean a bit to the GT side of the spectrum.
Major reason ---> Who's gonna' pay to fix it if something bad happens (and it can) if insurance is not going to cover it (and it won't). These are hugely expensive cars to risk on a track unless you have insurance, and that isn't worth it unless you track your car a lot.
 
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Ironically there a quite a few V12V owners in the UK the regularly do track days, much rarer for V8v owners though.
The AMOC UK's insurer covers track days at no extra cost.
 

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Major reason ---> Who's gonna' pay to fix it if something bad happens (and it can) if insurance is not going to cover it (and it won't). These are hugely expensive cars to risk on a track unless you have insurance, and that isn't worth it unless you track your car a lot.
Yep. That's why I'm going to track my V12V once, maybe twice, to get a feel for it on the track. When I do, I certainly won't be driving at 10/10ths!
 
Old Sep 13, 2013 | 03:43 PM
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Single or multiple track event insurance is available and the way to go with cars like the AM. It cost about $400/event to cover my 2010 GT3 with an guaranteed replacement value of $110K.
 
Old Sep 13, 2013 | 04:02 PM
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^^ what he said.

BTW folks they are NOT steel discs/rotors. They are cast iron.

It might not be possible to notice a performance advantage with the reduced unsprung mass of CCM's, but noticing a better ride quality might be easier. All subjective without back to back comparisons, of course, but I have often marvelled at what I feel is a superior ride on the V12V to the V8. Lighter wheels and brakes, perhaps? The spring rates (and probably shock valving) are harsher...
 
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^^^I'd like to "echo" what he said. The ride on the V12V is so much better than it was on my V8V. I avoided certain roads with the V8V because it was so crashy. No so with the V12V, which seems to flow over uneven pavement as compared to the V8V despite the higher spring rates.
 
Old Sep 13, 2013 | 07:22 PM
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^^^ also true of my Virage as compared to my previous DB9. Even with the dampers set to the stiffest setting it's a better ride. Feels very nimble and much smoother in the Virage.
 
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As the point was at the start of the thread, many high end owners know little or nothing of cars. In actuality, I bought my Vantage because a good friend has one. He also has a Viper ACR and purchased a V8V a couple of years ago. I immediately fell in love with the car. Funny thing is, he has owned 3 vipers and is currently looking for a Ferrari. Point is, he doesn't even know the operation of an internal combustion engine. Has not a clue what a valve is, or a connecting rod! He loves cars and has a garage full of cars.... Knows nothing about them. There are several owners in the Viper club that also, know little to nothing about what makes their cars tick! BUT, I will say, most of the guys we hang out with that have Ferrari's, Lambos etc, are all very humble, and love learning about what makes their cars run!
 
Old Sep 18, 2013 | 08:06 AM
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There are regular owners (most) and then there are owners who frequent forums like this. Completely different animals.
 
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Yesterday I bought a set of winter wheels and tires from a guy that sold off his BMW and had them left over in his garage. Nice fellow in a new Lexus, he told me he hated his BMW, and the final straw was one of his run-flat tires caught on fire on the interstate during a trip and he was livid about that. I nod understandingly but am thinking to myself "You dummy, they're call "Run-Flats" not "Run Flat Forever". Of course it caught fire if he's tooling down I-95 at 70 mph in a tire with only 10 lbs of tire pressure in it! The heat generated must have been incredible, they are designed to go a limited distance at 45 mph to get it replaced.

He had no idea.....one more car owner clueless about how his vehicle operates.
 


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