The High End Car Owner
Some forum members have a cow when I say Ferrari owners care more for the image than performance and not many Ferrari owners track their cars. From my experience that isn't far from the truth, seems like you have the same experience as well. Porsche and BMW owners seems to be more well informed than the other brands.
Why would anyone track one of these cars? I'm a Porsche owner considering a switch and if I do I'll never even consider taking it to a track. There are other cars better suited to that.
The mission is different here.
The mission is different here.
I have made a few mods (tires, brakes, rotors, exhaust) that have increased the durability and usage at the track to my liking and will continue running it. I know there are a few others that do it often as well. Additionally, AMR and TRG are fairly active on the US circuits with Astons and they have done quite well as of late. In fact an Aston won the most recent GTS race in Sonoma. Not sure that means much, but its better than finishing last... http://www.world-challenge.com/news/...php?story=3276
Go enjoy the ride, it's fun.
Major reason ---> Who's gonna' pay to fix it if something bad happens (and it can) if insurance is not going to cover it (and it won't). These are hugely expensive cars to risk on a track unless you have insurance, and that isn't worth it unless you track your car a lot.
Ironically there a quite a few V12V owners in the UK the regularly do track days, much rarer for V8v owners though.
The AMOC UK's insurer covers track days at no extra cost.
The AMOC UK's insurer covers track days at no extra cost.
Last edited by mikey k; Sep 13, 2013 at 10:49 AM.
Major reason ---> Who's gonna' pay to fix it if something bad happens (and it can) if insurance is not going to cover it (and it won't). These are hugely expensive cars to risk on a track unless you have insurance, and that isn't worth it unless you track your car a lot.
Single or multiple track event insurance is available and the way to go with cars like the AM. It cost about $400/event to cover my 2010 GT3 with an guaranteed replacement value of $110K.
^^ what he said.
BTW folks they are NOT steel discs/rotors. They are cast iron.
It might not be possible to notice a performance advantage with the reduced unsprung mass of CCM's, but noticing a better ride quality might be easier. All subjective without back to back comparisons, of course, but I have often marvelled at what I feel is a superior ride on the V12V to the V8. Lighter wheels and brakes, perhaps? The spring rates (and probably shock valving) are harsher...
BTW folks they are NOT steel discs/rotors. They are cast iron.
It might not be possible to notice a performance advantage with the reduced unsprung mass of CCM's, but noticing a better ride quality might be easier. All subjective without back to back comparisons, of course, but I have often marvelled at what I feel is a superior ride on the V12V to the V8. Lighter wheels and brakes, perhaps? The spring rates (and probably shock valving) are harsher...
^^^I'd like to "echo"
what he said. The ride on the V12V is so much better than it was on my V8V. I avoided certain roads with the V8V because it was so crashy. No so with the V12V, which seems to flow over uneven pavement as compared to the V8V despite the higher spring rates.
what he said. The ride on the V12V is so much better than it was on my V8V. I avoided certain roads with the V8V because it was so crashy. No so with the V12V, which seems to flow over uneven pavement as compared to the V8V despite the higher spring rates.
As the point was at the start of the thread, many high end owners know little or nothing of cars. In actuality, I bought my Vantage because a good friend has one. He also has a Viper ACR and purchased a V8V a couple of years ago. I immediately fell in love with the car. Funny thing is, he has owned 3 vipers and is currently looking for a Ferrari. Point is, he doesn't even know the operation of an internal combustion engine. Has not a clue what a valve is, or a connecting rod! He loves cars and has a garage full of cars.... Knows nothing about them. There are several owners in the Viper club that also, know little to nothing about what makes their cars tick! BUT, I will say, most of the guys we hang out with that have Ferrari's, Lambos etc, are all very humble, and love learning about what makes their cars run!
Yesterday I bought a set of winter wheels and tires from a guy that sold off his BMW and had them left over in his garage. Nice fellow in a new Lexus, he told me he hated his BMW, and the final straw was one of his run-flat tires caught on fire on the interstate during a trip and he was livid about that. I nod understandingly but am thinking to myself "You dummy, they're call "Run-Flats" not "Run Flat Forever". Of course it caught fire if he's tooling down I-95 at 70 mph in a tire with only 10 lbs of tire pressure in it! The heat generated must have been incredible, they are designed to go a limited distance at 45 mph to get it replaced.
He had no idea.....one more car owner clueless about how his vehicle operates.
He had no idea.....one more car owner clueless about how his vehicle operates.




