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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 05:50 AM
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evo reviews the new V12VS

As I feared, the gearbox still seems a bit lacking by today's standards:

"The seven-speed Oerlikon Graziano gearbox is trickier to get used to. We obviously miss having three pedals and the added interaction that gave in the old V12 – we’d happily forfeit the 25kg weight saving the paddle-shift transmission provides to have it back. The paddle-shift is not the swiftest or most modern-feeling system, either. Curiously, the downshifts are brilliant – the ’box never once refused a request and always delivered smoothly with a pleasingly dramatic flare of revs. It’s the upshifts that are the problem. When you’re going for it and changing up at high revs, the shifts bang through quickly, but if you short-shift or want to drive at less than nine-tenths, the response is awkward and the torque interruption too long compared to most current systems. Having said that, we got used to it over one day, and you doubtless would too if you owned one. If you don’t want to drive flat-out, you can work with it by lifting off the throttle as you pull the right-hand paddle, or better still just not changing gear as much and instead leaning more heavily on the huge well of torque provided by the engine."

That said, it's still a positive review.

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evoc...and_specs.html
 
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I was really hoping to hear that the SportShift in the V12V would work out these shortcomings. I like how they are staying with an automated manual and not a dual clutch because I feel the DCTs are too good and basically driving an automatic. However, they need to learn from Ferrari and Lamborghini and get something like 2009 technology in the F1 Superfast or the 2011+ Superleggera. Basically fast bang on shifts with minimal lurch in all throttle positions.
 
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The lurch on (especially first gear) my 04 and 06 gallardos SUCKED
 
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Originally Posted by Racer_X
As I feared, the gearbox still seems a bit lacking by today's standards:

"The seven-speed Oerlikon Graziano gearbox is trickier to get used to. We obviously miss having three pedals and the added interaction that gave in the old V12 – we’d happily forfeit the 25kg weight saving the paddle-shift transmission provides to have it back. The paddle-shift is not the swiftest or most modern-feeling system, either. Curiously, the downshifts are brilliant – the ’box never once refused a request and always delivered smoothly with a pleasingly dramatic flare of revs. It’s the upshifts that are the problem. When you’re going for it and changing up at high revs, the shifts bang through quickly, but if you short-shift or want to drive at less than nine-tenths, the response is awkward and the torque interruption too long compared to most current systems. Having said that, we got used to it over one day, and you doubtless would too if you owned one. If you don’t want to drive flat-out, you can work with it by lifting off the throttle as you pull the right-hand paddle, or better still just not changing gear as much and instead leaning more heavily on the huge well of torque provided by the engine."

That said, it's still a positive review.

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evoc...and_specs.html
I see it as good news bad news. It's sad that Aston seemingly can't fix their Achilles heal. The good news for me is that I don't feel the need to trade up. Now offer it with 3 pedals and we have a different story...
 
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Originally Posted by jcpca356
The lurch on (especially first gear) my 04 and 06 gallardos SUCKED

That was all fixed in 2009 when Lambo modified the transmission as well as the clutch flywheel assembly. New Gallardos are the best sile clutch transmissions every made (and probably will ever be made is there are soon to be none left as everyone jumps over to DCT
 
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