If you are wondering why the T shirt thread has been removed I'll try to explain...basically it is because members (non sponsors) are not permitted to initiate group buys. The reason for this is because in the past when members were allowed to initiate group buys many members were harmed by loss of funds and non delivery of product. At least when a sponsor is responsible for collecting funds and delivering product we have some recourse if things go bad...all members should understand that they will have no complaint with the forum if the T shirt buy initiated by a member goes south. Suggest you contact that member via pm as open forum discussion of that unauthorized group buy will not be permitted...sorry