Aston Martin DB7, DB9, DBS, Vantage V8, Vanquish, and Classic models

DBS manual

Thread Tools
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Jan 4, 2020 | 02:45 PM
  #1  
riverflyer's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,238
From: north coast of california
Rep Power: 81
riverflyer has much to be proud ofriverflyer has much to be proud ofriverflyer has much to be proud ofriverflyer has much to be proud ofriverflyer has much to be proud ofriverflyer has much to be proud ofriverflyer has much to be proud ofriverflyer has much to be proud of
DBS manual

Anyone on board who has one of these rare models? I am trying to get first hand feedback about this tranny and likes and dislikes?
TIA
 
Old Jan 4, 2020 | 03:45 PM
  #2  
speedracer800's Avatar
Registered User
15 Year Member
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 800
From: Lake Geneva, WI
Rep Power: 52
speedracer800 is a glorious beacon of lightspeedracer800 is a glorious beacon of lightspeedracer800 is a glorious beacon of lightspeedracer800 is a glorious beacon of lightspeedracer800 is a glorious beacon of light
Originally Posted by riverflyer
Anyone on board who has one of these rare models? I am trying to get first hand feedback about this tranny and likes and dislikes?
TIA
I own a DBS with a manual and before that I had a DB9 with a manual.. they are very similar. I absolutely LOVE the manual transmission in these cars. The shifter is amazing and feels great in your hand. The gear ratios feel dead on to me. If I was going to complain about anything..it would be that the clutch is a bit tough to get used to. It doesn't start to "grab" until you are quite a ways up in the pedal travel. It's not a "problem" but it takes a bit of getting used to. I actually took it to the dealer to have it looked at because I thought it was an indication of wear..but they said it's normal and since then I have driven a couple other DB's with 3 pedals and they all feel the same. Just something you should expect..past that it's awesome! DO IT! They are also starting to creep up in value which is nice.
 
Old Jan 4, 2020 | 03:51 PM
  #3  
XJRS Owner's Avatar
Registered User
15 Year Member
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,159
From: Northern CT
Rep Power: 144
XJRS Owner Is a GOD !XJRS Owner Is a GOD !XJRS Owner Is a GOD !XJRS Owner Is a GOD !XJRS Owner Is a GOD !XJRS Owner Is a GOD !XJRS Owner Is a GOD !XJRS Owner Is a GOD !XJRS Owner Is a GOD !XJRS Owner Is a GOD !XJRS Owner Is a GOD !
I would consider it a so-so trans. Shifting needs to be deliberate; too fast and you may get the wrong gear. I would prefer it as an SSM like the Vantage. It needs fresh fluid for the best changes; gets worse over time as the gears shear the additives. When cold, shifting from 1st to 2nd is nigh on impossible until warmed up. Good strategy is to skip 2nd and go to directly to 3rd.

And to add to the post above, the clutch pedal does grab high resulting in you having to lift your heel off the floor. Once you do that, modulation becomes difficult especially when trying to get moving in first. Also first is too tall, further making leaving from a stop tricky (expect stalling until you get a good feel for it) and reverse is worse...you never get used to how tall it is and you will stall it whenever you use it for the first time (backing up a slight incline is to be avoided at all costs).
 

Last edited by XJRS Owner; Jan 4, 2020 at 04:05 PM.
Old Jan 4, 2020 | 07:21 PM
  #4  
V12Stealth's Avatar
Registered User
5 Year Member
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 306
From: San Jose, CA
Rep Power: 20
V12Stealth
I just put 2k miles on a DB9 manual in the last month. All types of driving, commuting in bay area traffic, long highway trips and even some track time at Thunderhill. The shifter is garbage. Its a simple cable linkage that feels mushy. You need to be slow and deliberate with your shifts. If you bang shifts you could dislodge the ball and socket at the transmission leaving you stranded. The clutch and accelerator have very little feel. The clutch point is also very high so it makes actuation very difficult if you just want to slip it (like if you need to reverse uphill carefully while parking in San Francisco).

Probably the worst shifter I've felt but would I trade it for an automatic? Never in a million years.

The transmission itself is pretty solid you. Doesn't like to shift when cold. Gear ratios are all very close.

EDIT: DB9 manuals are much rarer than DBS manuals.
 

Last edited by V12Stealth; Jan 4, 2020 at 07:36 PM.
Old Jan 5, 2020 | 10:26 AM
  #5  
AWV12's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 42
From: Holland
Rep Power: 0
AWV12 is infamous around these parts
Drive a DBS (Volante) Manual for several years now and imho it is much more involving than the same car with TouchTronic. Even waiting for a better transmission in the new DBSS before I take the plunge for a new one (see my experiences of the new DBSS in other threads).

Since the V12 has enormous torque, you can drive it in 3 when you want to cruise around town, but if you really want to drive more sporty, shift it, and that goes very smooth imho, even at lower temps. Don't know if there is a big difference between the DBS gearbox and the DB9 gearbox in this respect, but maybe others will chime in on that.

There was one major service bulletin related to this Graziano gearbox, so check if this has been done before buying!
 

Last edited by AWV12; Jan 12, 2020 at 04:34 AM.
Old Jan 5, 2020 | 06:30 PM
  #6  
jimshadow's Avatar
Registered User
5 Year Member
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 157
From: Midwest
Rep Power: 16
jimshadow is infamous around these parts
A DBS with a Manual is THE WAY to go! The tranny is very well made and with that solid aluminum DBS Shifter (I have one in my manual DB9 thanks to @speedracer800 it's like buttah! It is a little finicky when cold. When warm, I have no problem working the gears when I want to get on it, however, keep in mind that it is a high performance GRAND TOURING car, not a track star. If you want the latter, get a 911 Turbo with a manual.

FWIW, YMMV.

Jim
 
Old Jan 6, 2020 | 05:42 AM
  #7  
kumayama's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 21
Rep Power: 0
kumayama is infamous around these parts
A future classic for sure. Try to find one with B&O they are rare on manuals. The B&O was designed specifically for the DBS but was not ready in time, Up to chassis no. 743 they are equipped with the Alpine Premium and from no 754 onward B&O. that means a very few manual have the B&O since almost every DBS sold from late 2009 where touchtronic.
 

Last edited by kumayama; Jan 6, 2020 at 05:44 AM.
Old Jan 12, 2020 | 04:38 AM
  #8  
AWV12's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 42
From: Holland
Rep Power: 0
AWV12 is infamous around these parts
Originally Posted by kumayama
A future classic for sure. Try to find one with B&O they are rare on manuals. The B&O was designed specifically for the DBS but was not ready in time, Up to chassis no. 743 they are equipped with the Alpine Premium and from no 754 onward B&O. that means a very few manual have the B&O since almost every DBS sold from late 2009 where touchtronic.
Indeed the B&O looks great (especially when the front tweeters raise from the dash), this was introduced almost at the same time as the TT gearbox, after which not many manuals were sold. But.........the Premium (Alpine) audio system is not that bad at all, in fact, it has less compression/DSP filtering/etc than the B&O setup, and I would not mind going for that option when available!
 
Old Jan 13, 2020 | 03:30 PM
  #9  
09DBS's Avatar
Registered User
5 Year Member
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 101
From: Newport Coast
Rep Power: 15
09DBS is infamous around these parts
An Outstanding acquisition (if and when you find one). I have a 2009 DBS Touchtronic and although 6 speed manual is preferred; any Aston DBS experience will be exquisite. Great endeavors in your DBS searching = 100%
 
Old Jan 14, 2020 | 03:48 PM
  #10  
AXARUNNER's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 765
From: New Jersey
Rep Power: 55
AXARUNNER is a splendid one to beholdAXARUNNER is a splendid one to beholdAXARUNNER is a splendid one to beholdAXARUNNER is a splendid one to beholdAXARUNNER is a splendid one to beholdAXARUNNER is a splendid one to beholdAXARUNNER is a splendid one to beholdAXARUNNER is a splendid one to behold
Originally Posted by riverflyer
Anyone on board who has one of these rare models? I am trying to get first hand feedback about this tranny and likes and dislikes?
TIA
Whenever I discover the chick I just "successfully" picked up is a tranny I dislike it. Whilst I don't like it, if I'm inebriated enough, I'll just go along with it...
 
Old Jan 14, 2020 | 08:43 PM
  #11  
RossL's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 1,031
From: MD
Rep Power: 80
RossL has a reputation beyond reputeRossL has a reputation beyond reputeRossL has a reputation beyond reputeRossL has a reputation beyond reputeRossL has a reputation beyond reputeRossL has a reputation beyond reputeRossL has a reputation beyond reputeRossL has a reputation beyond reputeRossL has a reputation beyond reputeRossL has a reputation beyond reputeRossL has a reputation beyond repute
My biggest complaint of the manual is the shifter **** gets crazy hot in the sun!
 
Old Jan 15, 2020 | 12:56 PM
  #12  
plastique999's Avatar
Registered User
15 Year Member
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,262
From: SoCal
Rep Power: 75
plastique999 is a name known to allplastique999 is a name known to allplastique999 is a name known to allplastique999 is a name known to allplastique999 is a name known to allplastique999 is a name known to all
Originally Posted by RossL
My biggest complaint of the manual is the shifter **** gets crazy hot in the sun!
This was my experience as well....I’ve had both a manual and the paddle shifter DBS. The manual shifting I remember was quite smooth as far as the shifter was considered...a nice click into the slot. The actual clutch wasn’t too heavy and quite driveable for daily driving.
my 2nd DBS was the touchtronic and the shifting was fine, not dual clutch feel but I like SCT feel anyhow.
 
Old Jan 15, 2020 | 02:19 PM
  #13  
XJRS Owner's Avatar
Registered User
15 Year Member
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,159
From: Northern CT
Rep Power: 144
XJRS Owner Is a GOD !XJRS Owner Is a GOD !XJRS Owner Is a GOD !XJRS Owner Is a GOD !XJRS Owner Is a GOD !XJRS Owner Is a GOD !XJRS Owner Is a GOD !XJRS Owner Is a GOD !XJRS Owner Is a GOD !XJRS Owner Is a GOD !XJRS Owner Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by plastique999
This was my experience as well....I’ve had both a manual and the paddle shifter DBS. The manual shifting I remember was quite smooth as far as the shifter was considered...a nice click into the slot. The actual clutch wasn’t too heavy and quite driveable for daily driving.
my 2nd DBS was the touchtronic and the shifting was fine, not dual clutch feel but I like SCT feel anyhow.
It's not an SCT; conventional torque converter automatic.
 
Old Jan 16, 2020 | 02:22 AM
  #14  
kumayama's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 21
Rep Power: 0
kumayama is infamous around these parts
Originally Posted by AWV12
Indeed the B&O looks great (especially when the front tweeters raise from the dash), this was introduced almost at the same time as the TT gearbox, after which not many manuals were sold. But.........the Premium (Alpine) audio system is not that bad at all, in fact, it has less compression/DSP filtering/etc than the B&O setup, and I would not mind going for that option when available!
Agree, B&O is not crucial to the feeling of being one with the car which is what´s it all about with a manual transmission, the sound of the brutal naturally aspirated v12 is still the music you want to listen to. B&O is amazing but just the extra spice to this masterpiece of a car, timeless!
 
Old Jan 16, 2020 | 05:20 AM
  #15  
sliderule01's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 269
From: Collegeville, PA
Rep Power: 0
sliderule01 is infamous around these parts
Since I bought my DB9 I have not turned the radio on, preferring instead to listen to the V12 exhaust note.
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:42 AM.