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Old Jul 10, 2021 | 01:02 PM
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Gotta love previous owners: disabled brake pad sensors

Today while performing routine cleaning and oiling to the cone filters, I discovered a lazy mechanic or cheap previous owner tied back the sensors instead of replacing them. On this one, the metal contact is no longer there so it would not have worked anyway.

Further, the pads are placed backwards so the slot for the sensor is on the outside instead of the inside.

Will get this sorted and move on to the next “what did the prev owner cheap out on”.





 
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ya, i did the same thing. i check my pads often enough to make the entire thing unnecessary. did the same with the TPMS. also disabled the clutch engagement switch. i suppose they could be useful for those that have a need to trust them, but IME they issue too many warnings that are false or misleading. IMO they encourage bad habits,
 
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ya, i did the same thing. i check my pads often enough to make the entire thing unnecessary. did the same with the TPMS. also disabled the clutch engagement switch. i suppose they could be useful for those that have a need to trust them, but IME they issue too many warnings that are false or misleading. IMO they encourage bad habits,
cheerfully guilty of all three!

But, when I sell I try hard to tell the new owner everything I have ever done. I try to buy from like-minded owners.
 
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I like the idea of having the safety net of warning systems there. I was able to source all 4 sensors for less than $20. So on my next go round, I will replace them. I was more concerned about the placement of the pads, which really does not matter much but shows carelessness. It took all of 3 minutes to swap them, having the process of removing the pads from my ‘15 Touareg, which has the exact same calipers.

Air filters all clean and oiled, mission accomplished.


 
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I like the idea of having the safety net of warning systems there. I was able to source all 4 sensors for less than $20. So on my next go round, I will replace them. I was more concerned about the placement of the pads, which really does not matter much but shows carelessness. It took all of 3 minutes to swap them, having the process of removing the pads from my ‘15 Touareg, which has the exact same calipers.

Air filters all clean and oiled, mission accomplished.

where did you source the brake pad sensors
 
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It's quite possible that a previous set of non-OEM pads didn't have slots for the sensors - I've had this situation myself when replacing pads with perfectly good alternatives.
 
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Rockauto.com has the sensors too.
 
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Originally Posted by Tashakes
I like the idea of having the safety net of warning systems there. I was able to source all 4 sensors for less than $20. So on my next go round, I will replace them. I was more concerned about the placement of the pads, which really does not matter much but shows carelessness. It took all of 3 minutes to swap them, having the process of removing the pads from my ‘15 Touareg, which has the exact same calipers.

Air filters all clean and oiled, mission accomplished.

so you like the "safety net" of brake pad sensors but run the risk of engine damage to delete air box for filters and use oiled filters for a perhaps very minor increase in power?

seems a bit backward
 
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May sound like it, but the risk is extremely low. I have been using these for 30+ years with no issues.

https://www.mishimoto.com/engineerin...d-air-filters/
 
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May sound like it, but the risk is extremely low. I have been using these for 30+ years with no issues.

https://www.mishimoto.com/engineerin...d-air-filters/
i was more referring to the airbox delete... see note from RedPants website...

There are risks associated with removing the air boxes from an Aston Martin. The main danger is that the intakes are situated very low to the ground, so there is a risk of water ingest if you drive into deep enough water. Redpants and its affiliates will not be held responsible for any damage or loss associated with the use of this product.
 
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Ah, got it. Makes sense. I can see where it could be a problem. Ingesting water would probably throw the engine into a fit! While I don't plan to drive the AM in the rain, thanks for the reference, I will definitely be on the lookout for deep water if I do.

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Originally Posted by Tashakes
I was more concerned about the placement of the pads, which really does not matter much but shows carelessness. It took all of 3 minutes to swap them, having the process of removing the pads from my ‘15 Touareg, which has the exact same calipers.
Unfortunately, now you have swapped the pads around, the pads that have bedded-in to one side of the disc will now be far less effective and need to be bedded-in again. You would have been better off leaving them where they were and fitting new sensors in the outer pads. The sensors you had on and were tied-up looked fine, the metal clip you mentioned that would stop them working is only the retaining clip and is not an electrical connection.
 
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Originally Posted by Tashakes
May sound like it, but the risk is extremely low. I have been using these for 30+ years with no issues.
30 years ago you didn't need to worry about oil vapour from the filter contaminating the hot film airflow sensor. GT4 race cars use them because they are quick and easy to swap out but their positioning on the Aston makes them vulnerable to dirt and water ingress whereas the stock airbox will pull cool air from high in the front grille with a water trap in the airbox to reduce the chance of hydraulicing the engine, effectively writing off the engine. In tests with new stock airfilters and the oiled type you are using by DAE Racing, there was no performance change, just a throaty induction note. I would refit the filter boxes and fit free flowing filter elements inside them and get the best of both worlds.
 


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