Let him back up his statement? He is correct.

Why don't you start backing up yours?

There are going to be many different videos showing different track results with cars that are so close, the driver becomes the largest variable in those. I believe you said the S5 wins? Well, it didn't there. Clearly you are biased. The 335 without a limited slip beat the S5, with an LSD what do you think would happen around a track?

Does not change any of the straightline talk, which everyone who actually knows their cars is disagreeing with you on. Oh, I know, you supposedly beat some stock 335xi then it changes to 335i, thanks for that. Back up your imaginary story with some evidence please, do you have a VBOX?

 

No I don't unfortunately. The evidence I've provided is clearly spread out throughout this thread and in my own mind. I don't care whether you believe me or not, I'm not losing sleep over it, but you just keep saying the 335 is faster and thats it. No facts, no nothing except your two links and your abrasive comments with no back up. I have nothing against 335's and I'm not ignorant (as I KEEP SAYING) to know what they do with tuning. You seriously have to read what I'm saying because we're both starting to sound like redundant, broken records.

Also, like I said. Let him backup his own statement, and just leave this thread. Nobody likes you.

 

Track Times, and acceleration comparison- http://fastestlaps.com/index.php?pag...=45fd0fcbd70cb

Audi S5 Tests
Edmunds- http://www.insideline.com/audi/s5/20...8-audi-s5.html 13.3 Quarter Mile at 104.6 mph. 0-60 in 4.9

Motor Trend- http://blogs.motortrend.com/6212023/...yum/index.html Quarter Mile in 13.1 at 105.2. 0-60 in 4.5

335i Tests
Edmunds- http://www.insideline.com/audi/s4/20...-bmw-335i.html 13.5 Quarter Mile at 103.8 mph. 0-60 in 4.9

Motor Trend- http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...335/specs.html 13.7 Quarter Mile at 104.00 mph. 0-60 5.1

So thats 4-0 S5- Not including anything off the fastestlaps site

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHj0zbhjLZI
4-1 S5

http://www.fourtitude.com/news/publi...cle_3709.shtml
4-2 S5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKh4Z45JJWI
5-2 S5

Unless you find some more evidence, as it stands now the S5 based on many reviews and my experience is faster. I don't even know why I continue with you, you're just an ignorant baby. Why are you so hostile towards the Audi? Get me some info/tests or stop posting.

 

I don't need to believe you, fact is the S5 is not a match for the 335 so I don't know why you continue. It isn't even a close battle, the 335 obliterates the car with just a tune.

The 335 comes with more boost from the factory as well now, if you actually knew your cars you would know that the 335 was purposely detuned and underrated to avoid stepping on the toes of E46 M3 owners. Which is why it dynos the same as the E46 M3 which is rated at more hp. What don't you get?

No facts? You have dyno charts posted that you ignore, you have tons of timeslips that you ignore, are those not facts? Why are you having difficulty accepting them? You are magazine racing instead of paying attention to what owners are actually doing with their cars

No one is going to come to your defense, everyone is telling you that you are wrong. The 335 is the quicker car, it dynos more to the wheels, it has the more efficient drivetrain, it is lighter, it has more potential, it has broken into the 11's, these are all facts.

Now I understand you like your S5 and all that, good for you, but you need to let the performance argument go as you are just making yourself look foolish especially when you start magazine racing applying times from cars tested on different days in different conditions, holy crap son. Your own Audi fanboys on fourtitude accepted the 335 as quicker, you should too.

 

Lmao son, you know your wrong, its ok cupcake....we aren't talking tuned cars here. It's ok bud, it'll all be OK.

 

Guys, seriously? I'm suddenly reminded of high school where you figured one car was better because of a .2 difference on the 0-60 meter or 1/4 mile. After 20 years of collecting cars and driving tracks I can absolutely say that, it's a wash. Honestly, it would depend on the driver. Now I'm sure you all think you are fabulous drivers but I know for certain that a real pro driver is going to beat me in a (oh pick it, RS4, M3 whatever) versus say my R8 V10. Sure the v10 is technically "faster" but it's the driver. And this discussion is silly. A 335 is extremely easy to tune to be faster than an S5. Generally an S5 is faster than a 335. But in the end it's simply what car do you like to drive more. For example, did you consider that the short shift transmission in a bmw is way quicker than a comparable S5? Did you consider that the straight line speed of the S5 in the power band is better than the bmw? What rules on a track? What track? It all gets muddled and the cars are close enough to just shrug and say, "depends on the driver"

 

Definitely, and the driver aspect was mentioned.

However, there is no getting around the fact the 335 can easily run more boost, even BMW got in on this from the factory. The gap is only widened now.

The S5 is a nice car and not everyone cares about performance. However, lets not delude ourselves into thinking a naturally aspirated V8 in a heavy AWD vehicle is going to offer performance anywhere near a RWD twin turbo I6 that is detuned out of the gate. The S5 with a tune and exhaust posted 270 wheel while 335's have cracked 400 wheel, night and day. The 335 is a far better performance option. It does not matter who is driving, this is a fact.

At the end of the day, someone should choose what is best for them, but lets not shy away from the truth just to spare someones pride. Can't wait for the S5 to get the boosted 6, so the 335 actually has some competition.

 

+1

This thread is beyond annoying now, lets try to reel it in a bit. There are other 335 vs s5 threads out there; I even posted a thorough review of the differences between the two cars (hint: they're not in the same class IMO). Bring your argument over a tenth over there.

Back to the S5 vs RS4 question. I just posted this in another thread a few mins ago...I'll just quote myself:

 

beautiful car! I'll miss mine too when she is gone, but I know I want more Hp so the car has got to go

 

my dad has a 2010 S5 with the AWE down pipes and cat-back exhaust, GIAC chip and Bilstein PSS10's. now its pretty fast but its not as fast as the RS4 that he used to have and it was factory stock. the S5 is still an awesome car. it has great lines and the interior is awesome.

 

yup the lines and interior are great, think we all agree on that.

 

Funny thing is that I had not even read all the BS leading up to my statement - didn't realize it was such a debate. And that statement was basically that they can run with each other - I think it would likely come down to driver ability. I own a 335 (obviously) but have driven the S5 many times (buddy has one). To say the S5 smokes a 335 is flat out incorrect - and vice versa.

Fact is, the S5 is more form over substance - which is OK! Your paying $55k-$60k for a beautiful machine - just not a very quick one. 335 for $44k is more understated and definitely has more bang for the buck in the performance department. The tuning discussion is moot cause you can't really tune the S5.

Different animals - just wanted to counter the original comment that the guy was smoking 335's all over the place.

FWIW - Very tough to rank which I'd want the most - B8 S4, S5, or RS4 - very very tough call. Probably would go S4, S5, RS4 in that order....

 

I have an RS4 with cake layer Carbon Build up and would like to race a 355 and a S5 LOL This thread is fun!

 

Hi id like to add to this thread..I have a 900+ hp R35 GTR that will beat all your azzes esp that curio m3 does that help? I love this thread too.
Seriously I used to own an S5- now M3 sedan, gtr, 997 tt pdk, oh and an M5 touring.
S5 is damn nice car to be riding in. But like others say it aint happening performance wise. And yes if i was a betting man I would rather be driving a 335i in a race btwn the two.

 

I love the look of the S5, but it seemed a little slow to me. I prefer to raw feel of the RS4. However, they're both great cars. Can't go wrong with either.