Also, maybe depending on build for which region, your 05 does not have the required coding or software level in the infotainment head unit, do you have a full scan that you can show us the "07" readout ?

Like these from an 05 and 06.

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Yes Johnny
I was also coming to the conclusion that the problem resides in the Infotainment head unit. Since mine is a 2005 MY it may not have the required software version to enable the car system to access via bluetooth phones in the vicinity. Here I am posting an image of the scan of my system Address 07. Can you figure out the difference and whether or not it would be configurable?

Many thanks

 

Hello, SSpeeder,
Can you please post a picture of the infotainment screen and what it displays when you unplug both the plugs on the AT BT module and press the "phone" button at the head unit, I want to see if the screen displays the "phone is not available" or something along those lines, I want to be sure that the 18 pin black plug is supplying proper wiring to said BT module.

JJJ

 

Hy Johnny
Here is the picture as requested. As you predicted it shows phone not available. So I guess the AT module is receiving power. As soon as I plug it in it changes the massage to "SIM NOT INSERTED" (both phones off their cradles). It must be the head unit firmware which is not prepared to accept this module. Don't you think so?

Thanks

 

Yes, it does look to be that your head unit is a earlier SW with the "0223" VS. the "0251" that other 05's have had, OR it's coding, possibly.

Now I know the 3W0 035 007 emphasis on the "007" is for ROW, where as in my area of the world we have "008", and you have a "G" whereas I had an "F" as my original, and the 3W0 035 008 F worked with the 2006-07 BT module, it paired with my order phones and at the time the Galaxy S7, but the S7 would drop the call after someone answered, so when I did my upgrade to the NAIM system and before I installed the 2010 infotainment head unit with NAIM, I installed the 2010 "AT" BT module and tested it with the 3W0035008F to see if my S7 would work, and it did, it showed all info just like the 2006-07 BT module did, and the calls no longer dropped, all the info that is shown in my video showed up with both BT modules.

Now remember my 05 GT has a complete wiring harness from an 06, and the 2010 head unit, BT module, SAT radio module, etc. where all plug and play with the 2006 wiring harness, with the exception of the SAT module, I just had to feed it +/- and tap into CAN BUS high and low, and there it was working, so I am baffled as to why your unit shows nothing of the kind, even if you purchased that "JNV" module that no longer supports new phones, how would that work with your head unit if it shows nothing to do with BT.

I just went through the wiring diagrams for the 2005, 2006, 2007, and the 2009, and all of them have the same exact pin outs on the 18 pin plug to the BT module, the ground (pin 1), both positives (pins 10 & 11), and the high and low CAN-BUS (pins 8 low 17 high) , so I am baffled ....

If it were me I would take a shot at the coding, you have 0400335, where my 3W0035008F had 0400325, you never know, if it doesn't work you just change the code back, see if your Ross-Tech will let you into the coding of "07"..

Here are some pics showing 2004's and 05's with the prefix and SW level.


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Hi Johnny
Thanks so much for spending your time over this.
I will have a shot at the coding. However I've been through the Ross Tech label file for the Head Unit and what I concluded was that by changing that second to last number from 3 to 2 I will just tell the module I don't have a TV module, the 2 means all I have is the telephone module, whereas with the 3 I have both modules.
I will let you know.

 

This morning I tried changing that code but although accepted by the controller, it didn't produce any different results.
Meanwhile while I was at it, I opened Controller 77 (phone) and went through adaptation and found this on channel 15



I then tried to use a new value of "1" and TEST but the controller didn't accepted.
So I am back to square 1.

Many thanks

 

Post 1 (The Failure) of 2

Ok! I have my Iphone X connected and working with my 2007 Bentley Continental GT
(next post will explain how - I took a different route over what has been discussed so far).


This did not work: "3W0 035 385 AT" from vehicles from late 08 through 2010, with hardware version "HW0008" and software version "SW0264"

Here is what happened:
1. Once i finally got access to the unit in my trunk, my unit did not have a Red Pin plug as discussed here and in the instructions with flying spurs, the cord that runs the control module into the arm rest inside the car for the blue tooth controller was hard wired into the unit - red alert #1 with a black rubber plug that does not just plug and unplug.
2. I did follow the instructions of plugging in just the 16 pin connection for the upgraded AT unit, thinking whats the difference i don't need that hard wire anyway but the interior dash screen unit advised me that I am missing the Sim Card and the phone is not available.
3. I am certain the next step was to swap out my armrests with the 2010 Sim Card reader I had purchased and continue on with this experiment but i had a different idea thanks to the Bentleys Bluetooth compatibility website and a back up unit I purchased on ebay earlier this week for $79.00 that originated from a 2010 Flying Spur.
4. Bottom line my 07 GT I could not get the unit to work, as expected with a simple plug play and additional work would be required

1. Picture below show the 3W0 035 385 AT" unit I purchased for this install - that did not work
2. Pictures of my OEM unit with the black hardwired wire I mentioned earlier for reference

I purchased this unit for the first attempt





This is what i found in my trunk - notice the black rubber plug hardwired into the blue tooth module, not a red connection point that can unplugged.



On to post #2, how I got it to work.

 

Post 2 (the Success!!) of 2

Iphone X working with a Bentley Continental GT post!

Part that worked for my upgrade

3W0 035 385 BB
HW0009
SW0060

This is from a 2010 Flying Spur.

As mentioned in my previous post I did finally get Bluetooth working in my 2007 Continental GT with an Iphone X fully integrated with all controls on the wheel and entertainment system including the controls in my armrest. I can use all controls however do not have the phone book, missed calls and redial feature working. Otherwise calling, receiving, microphone, speaker integration, volume control etc... working perfect.

Iphone X is a bluetooth 5.0 devise so anything from bluetooth that used to work before Bluetooth 4.0, 4.1, 4.2 etc is fully reverse compatible.. important to know because Iphone 6 was a 4.2 device so if Bentley says their upgraded module will work with an Iphone 6 I knew it would work with an Iphone X, 11, 11Pro etc...

You can check out the compatibility guide here: https://bluetooth.bentleymotors.com

If you look at Flying Spur, 07 upgraded version (not the original factory option from Bentley) it shows that it will support Iphone 6 plus, they even tell you what software version that is (thats all i needed).
I found a 2010 Flying Spur module with the matching software version and installed in my 07 car, the results are it all worked. I also confirmed with scurediaparts diagrams that the boxes where indeed compatible.

There is one catch... as I mentioned in my previous post, my module was hardwired, and the new module I got from the flying spur needed that armrest connection to work.

So I opened up both boxes (4 screws) and swapped the connections from the old box to the new BB unit (it is very simple, not difficult just need to handle it carefully due to circuitry and the carpet in your trunk dont want any electric discharge. it is all plug and play once the boxes are opened up. just simple connection points no welding or anything complicated.

So i have the working iphone X connection, my armrest module works, my screen and functions work, my steering wheel functions work, most important i can make and recieve calls with out getting dropped. definitely miss the phonebook feature, but the pros of being able to use the cars original features to talk, hang up, pick up a call. Very happy. 2.5 Weeks of ownership and lots of progress!

Next music streaming


This the info on the Flying Spur Module that works with my 07 Continental GT notice the part number ends with BB and make sure the SW version is 60 that was the key



see that black hardwired plug that is the only tricky part


i had to open up both units, 4 small screws in each corner, very easy, no clips, no glue, and swap the connection from my original unit to the new unit. This was plug and play only exception was you had to open up the old box and transfer the connection to the new box. - the gold looking pin with the 2 nuts and black/white wire is where you are plugging into by the way

to give you an idea this is what the pin looks like under that black rubber

 

Hello Cerex,
Please help me understand some of your comments.

1) There is no "16 pin" plug, there are the 2 plugs, 1 is 20 pins, the other is 18, the 18 pin plug is on the same side as that rubber boot you spoke of, which side did you plug in first to test ?

2) The hard wired wire is not hard wired per se, there is a coupling under the rear hat shelf, it also does NOT run to the armrest, it is a coaxial cable feed to the antenna at the top of the rear windshield.
I have purchased from a seller who removed it the same way, he yanked the wire right out of the module in stead of unplugging it further up the harness, or cutting it so you could splice it, I purchased a multi media interface, and instead of unplugging the cable that would go to the phone, the seller yanked it out ripping all the solder pads right off the printed circuit.

3) I am really confuse by a few issues, and I just went to my GT to test what I think you meant by it showing no SIM on the screen, I went to the car with no phones at all, and with the "AT" it still has all the options under phone menu when I press the phone button, are you saying that it showed "NO SIM" just as SSpeeder pictured, without any other option besides "SOS", or did it show "Phone not available" because the 18 pin plug was not plugged in, as SSpeeder showed also, as that is what happens when the 18 pin plug supplying the power to the module is unplugged.

Next, is why you went with SW "0060" if you wanted to use your iPhone with all options (phonebook), and why you went with a part from a FS (edit: I know why now), the 2007 GT with latest SW 0060 covers iPhone 6, but no phone book, the 2008 GT with the latest update by the dealer is the "311" and that covers the phonebook, on the iPhone 6 at least according to the Bentley BT site you linked, but you loose the screen and **** with the 2008 hardware change, what is really confusing is how a 2010 FS has HW 09 and SW 0060, I take that to mean that the 2010 FS has the same armrest setup as my GT (2006 setup) had and your 2007 GT has, therefore that is why your armrest screen and rotary **** are still working with HW 09 and SW 0060, but lack phonebook.

I think as I type this and now edited above I am getting the flow of the issue with your 2007, not as to why the "AT" did not work, but how you armrest insert is still working, I have my old 3W0035385J with HW 009 and SW 037 from 2006, the armrest of course worked with that module, but the newer android phones did not, the 'HW 009" is key, and during my research and in speaking with the parts manager at the Bentley dealership, it was said just as flying spurs stated about removing the one 20 pin plug, the parts manager said, and confirmed by the service manager, was that if I wanted the latest for android in my 2006 setup I would need the 3W0035385AT with HW 008 and SW 264, BUT that I would loose all function of the armrest screen and **** as that setup was not used in the GT or GTC from 2008 forward, but by what you have just proven is that it is available from a 2010 FS with HW 009, which lets the armrest function properly, whereas the "AT" with HW 008 kills the armrest, but gave me full function of the S10 5G phone, phonebook included.

So now I have to decide if I want to take a chance and purchase the unit you did and see if my Samsung Galaxy S10 5G shares the phonebook as it does now with the "AT", maybe that's the trade off, phonebook or armrest control, we will see.

Johnny


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Well done Cerex.
I am glad you had success with your set up.
Unfortunately in my case I am still at a dead end. I am almost convinced that because my GT is a 2005 MY somehow it is different from the subsequent models and it is not prepared to accept bluetooth connectivity to other phones besides its privacy phone.
I have tried all possible combinations with what I have and know, and still no luck.
Many thanks to you and to Johnny for all the help you gave me along the way.

 

Hello Cerex,
Sorry to go on with this, but I just want to be able to figure out what is going on with you and the "AT", and SSpeeder with his vehicle.

I went to the site again, and as you posted the 2007 FS had a SW 0060 as the latest dealer installed updated module, BUT, the 2008, 2009, 2010, and 2011 FS's all had the following SW versions when they left the factory, the 2008 FS had SW 0262, the 09 & 10 both had SW 0264, and the 2011 had SW 0266, with all 2008-11 FS's having the SW 0311 as the latest dealer update.

So how do you have a 2010 FS BT module with the old 2007 SW of 0060 ?

Johnny

 

Hello Cerex,
Well I just figured it out, the 3W0035385BB that your purchased from Pacific is not from a "2010 Flying Spur", it is from a 2007 Flying spur that had the dealer update module installed, that is why it has the SW 0060, YES the module was made on May 27th 2009 and then later installed at the dealer, the listing for the 3W0035385 clearly states that it is from a 2007 Flying Spur with 21k on the clock...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Communicati...p2047675.l2557


https://steadyvin.com/full-view-SCBBR93W178043411

 

Hello Cerex,
Any response to my comments so we may fully understand.

Johnny

 

My car BF Spur 2007 can connect well to my Samsung S10+, I can receive call, answer and hang up from the steering wheel.

However, the car bluetooth system requires the phone to connect in "Remote sim sharing" mode.

It means I won't able to dial number directly from the phone. If you want to call someone, you will have to look for their number from the contact list imported to car system or dial numbers directly on the dash screen, and this is super slow 😭

If I don't accept "Remote sim sharing" mode, the car bluetooh system won't allow my phone to connect.

Does anyone here get the same issue?

My car has the below bluetooth system