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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bk12
This may have been discussed on 6speed previously...but why aren't the Z4M coupes moving? I thought they were a great looking car...when I saw them earlier last year I really didn't think they would be dumping them like they are now.
From my experience (working at a high volume BMW dealership) the Z4M only appeals to a select customer. The car is stiff, raw, and aggressive which doesn't appeal to everyone. You can buy a nice optioned Z4 3.0si which has a wonderful engine, is easier to drive, and very dynamic for considerably less. That car will do everything the majority of customers are looking for, and they feel more comfortable in it.
 
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Originally Posted by bk12
This may have been discussed on 6speed previously...but why aren't the Z4M coupes moving? I thought they were a great looking car...when I saw them earlier last year I really didn't think they would be dumping them like they are now.
One thing that never seems to get mentioned is that Porsche was offering incentives to unload Caymans and Boxsters as well at the end of last year. The market for the cars is soft right now.

And it doesn't help sales that the Porsche Cayman is always picked over it in magazine reviews.

But mostly the problem is the car's character: the Z4Ms come off as rough and unrefined as a first impression and typically car reviewers don't get a lot of time to learn a car. A good analogy might be two breeds of dog: the Cayman is bred for obedience and intelligence and does what you tell it right out of the box, pretty much with no training. The M Coupe is a younger, more unruly breed that will challenge you, and requires a firm hand, confidence and training to control.

The Cayman is great if you want to make the occassional weekend thrash without hassle. You'll go out, push it a bit, and come home with a contented feeling that it's a great car and you're not that bad a driver, if you do say so yourself.

But I picked the Z4M because, to a large extent, it reminds me of the older, untamed Porsche 911s that took practice and skill to master; I come back from my drives in it analyzing the car's behavior, my driving, the route I took, the weather. I'm enjoying learning the car, and I learn from the car.

That's not an experience a lot of people are looking for - most want a quick bit of fun and something to impress others.
 

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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 10:27 AM
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It sounds like their are some increadible deals on M coups out there. I am looking for one, does anyone know of any socal dealers that are still offering some of those great lease rates?
 
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It sounds like their are some increadible deals on M coups out there. I am looking for one, does anyone know of any socal dealers that are still offering some of those great lease rates?
You can try New Century BMW and ask for Tai Yang
 
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i have a 99 M coupe dont like it too much
 
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i must say when i first bought the car i didn't really like it. but after a few hundred miles, i began to enjoy the car a lot more. i had just installed h&r springs and loved the performance, comfort and looks.
 
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Originally Posted by outlaw77
You can try New Century BMW and ask for Tai Yang
Thanks, I will give him a call this week. Well that is if it stops raining for a day or two. Car shopping in the rain... Sucks.
 
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Originally Posted by M5Kid
From my experience (working at a high volume BMW dealership) the Z4M only appeals to a select customer. The car is stiff, raw, and aggressive which doesn't appeal to everyone. You can buy a nice optioned Z4 3.0si which has a wonderful engine, is easier to drive, and very dynamic for considerably less. That car will do everything the majority of customers are looking for, and they feel more comfortable in it.
true, it's a poor man's GT3 in a way. i loved it.
 
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Originally Posted by epbrown01
One thing that never seems to get mentioned is that Porsche was offering incentives to unload Caymans and Boxsters as well at the end of last year. The market for the cars is soft right now.

And it doesn't help sales that the Porsche Cayman is always picked over it in magazine reviews.

But mostly the problem is the car's character: the Z4Ms come off as rough and unrefined as a first impression and typically car reviewers don't get a lot of time to learn a car. A good analogy might be two breeds of dog: the Cayman is bred for obedience and intelligence and does what you tell it right out of the box, pretty much with no training. The M Coupe is a younger, more unruly breed that will challenge you, and requires a firm hand, confidence and training to control.

The Cayman is great if you want to make the occassional weekend thrash without hassle. You'll go out, push it a bit, and come home with a contented feeling that it's a great car and you're not that bad a driver, if you do say so yourself.

But I picked the Z4M because, to a large extent, it reminds me of the older, untamed Porsche 911s that took practice and skill to master; I come back from my drives in it analyzing the car's behavior, my driving, the route I took, the weather. I'm enjoying learning the car, and I learn from the car.

That's not an experience a lot of people are looking for - most want a quick bit of fun and something to impress others.
nicely put. the M coupe has its unique personality unlike Cayman is very easy to control. it's like comparing a wild animal to a house pet.
 
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