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Originally Posted by GT3Ranger
Great kill but I'm somewhat confused.

The E46 M3 HPF put down 437 rwhp on pump gas and your E92 M3 dyno'ed 363 rwhp.
Now on shear numbers alone you should not win. Not even did he not hang with you but you crushed him.
Is it a gearing issue?

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Originally Posted by docwyte
To complicate matters even more, the E46 M3 weighs less too...
Agreed, it may not make a whole lotta sense if you look at this vid on it's own, but Ranger and Josh have you not seen the slew of vids I've done? If you look at all the other comparo's that have been done it makes sense. It's the DCT, I have little doubt, as I ran my buddies modded DCt and we were very close in 1 run.

I recently ran my buddies E92 M3 fully modded with 4.10's and pulled a few CLth's. Here's a the other comparo's that may clear up the confusion. This car with a few bolt ons plus the DCT is an over achiever IMHO, although the run with my buddies C6 Z06 sure put things into perspective, lol.

Modded E92 DCT vs. Slightly modded E92 M3 6MT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4BCiOUHrLQ

Modded E92 M3 DCT vs. Modded E90 M3 6MT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0ei80v6KQk

Modded E92 M3 vs. RPI Stage 1 M5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI0UycgReIA

Modded E92 M3 DCT vs. GT35R STI, 450whp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihBtxyxurAY

Modded E92 M3 DCT vs. HPF E46 M3 @6psi vs. Stg 3 Audi S4 on race fuel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld7aEt-S4os

Modded E92 M3 DCT vs. CLK63 Black Series AMG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx9dZrmdxOA

Modded E92 M3 DCT vs. Stage 3 C63 AMG, 470whp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvXbax-TPVE

Modded E92 M3 DCT vs. AA Stage 2 E46 M3 Supercharger 450whp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfZ3QpWQSGI

Modded E92 M3 DCT vs. JB3 335I on MS109 race fuel, 440whp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INaTwWAUB88

Modded E92 M3 DCT vs. Stage 3 B5 S4 on Meth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5byeQQ5XOTU

Modded E92 M3 vs. Modded M5 500whp on a dynopak vs. 996tt stage 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjHcFhdk4zI
 
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Watched the runs and it's great for you and congrats but I'm still confused.
Things just do not add up. I understand the quickness of the DCT and its advantage.
You consistently out pull cars with way more rwhp.
On the last video first that E60 M5 is dreaming if he thinks he has 500 rwhp.
and to out run a 996 TT that's modded seems incredible. On the second run the 996TT did not catch you.

I mean this is great believe me but I'm just amazed that cars with much more rwhp are beat. Even the Evosport C63 just barely got by you.

Whatever you're doing keep doing it.

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Originally Posted by GT3Ranger
Watched the runs and it's great for you and congrats but I'm still confused.
Things just do not add up. I understand the quickness of the DCT and its advantage.
You consistently out pull cars with way more rwhp.
On the last video first that E60 M5 is dreaming if he thinks he has 500 rwhp.
and to out run a 996 TT that's modded seems incredible. On the second run the 996TT did not catch you.

I mean this is great believe me but I'm just amazed that cars with much more rwhp are beat. Even the Evosport C63 just barely got by you.

Whatever you're doing keep doing it.

Ranger
That M5 made 500whp on a dynopak, probably 430 on a DD's and 450 on a DJ, the dynopak he ran on is notorious for high #'s, but that's what he said he made. Agreed it doesn't seem like it makes that much, lol, I think he will concur with that as well.

The 996tt got a bad start on that one run, I did a little better with my shifting as well.

I can assure you there is nothing special on my car, just the bolt ons, I'm just as surprised as anyone else, but the DCT does a lot. Here's a run with my buddies DCT M3, he has a full exhaust and drop in, a tad lighter than me, while I have the Flash and pulley, along with the stock muffler, but I'm still making a bit more power. We've ran a handful of times, it was close on a couple runs the others I got him by 1-2 cars, here's 2 of the runs that were filmed/posted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJimMzHjPTw
 

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hey guys, I run with drew every other weekend, and his car is quick! I did have a very bad start on that 2nd run... but his DCT is no joke... look at the GTR, dual clutch makes a huge difference. guys can sit around and calculate dynos and weights all day. We run for real, and the results speak for themselves. For example, i ran that C63 dead even from 40 to 160... put in race gas the next weekend, took him by 2 cars... it's not a dyno sheet that shows 20 rwhp with race gas, it's actual results against cars we run all the time. This is the true indicator of what mods will perform and won't. I don't even know what my car dynos at, but I do know that a stock ZO5 beats me... lol... and i know which cars I beat with whatever mods they have. See you this weekend D! We'll get some new cars to run...
 
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