[Rematch] Modded E92 M3 DCT vs. Tuned C63 AMG +59whp!
Good comment.
I assume the 59 rwhp gain was dyno proven being such an exact number.
Actually for a naturally aspirated motor, just a tune to yield 50 plus rwhp sounds very lofty. Common for a turbo motor but an NA motor?
Wish such a tune existed for the M5/M6's.
What did they do?
I mean I'm just wondering.
I comprehend the efficiency of the DCT but outperforming > 100 rwhp defiicit is a head scratcher.
Cheers
Ranger
btw I know Curio that you are going to slam back.
I assume the 59 rwhp gain was dyno proven being such an exact number.
Actually for a naturally aspirated motor, just a tune to yield 50 plus rwhp sounds very lofty. Common for a turbo motor but an NA motor?
Wish such a tune existed for the M5/M6's.
What did they do?
I mean I'm just wondering.

I comprehend the efficiency of the DCT but outperforming > 100 rwhp defiicit is a head scratcher.
Cheers
Ranger
btw I know Curio that you are going to slam back.

Just to add to that: The displacement, compression and bore and stroke are all identical in the 6.2 (not 6.3) liter Benz engines. MBenz plays games by controlling the output of the engine mostly via the ECU.
For example, the SL63 and S63 generate 518HP, the E63 generates 507HP, the C63 generates 451HP. I believe that there are also some minor exhaust diffferences. MBenz is concerned that customers would become upset by spending over $100K for an SL63 and having the same crank HP as a C63 for $70K!
The cars are basically heads-up now, eventhough the C63 has nearly 40 more WHP. DLSJ5's M3 DCT, primarily makes that difference up by weighing about 300 pounds less than the C63 and that awesome DCT tranny!
I dont get whats so surprising about the gains on the C63 it has a 6.2L motor that has to be good for something. I was there when they tuned that C63 and they got 342whp and looking at the dyno u can tell how the car was held back it look as if once the car hit 5000 rpm the power just stopped climbing and stayed flat like a shelf. Then after the tune it climbed all the way to redline and made 401whp. This was done on the same machine that I made 380whp after all my mods! and my Baseline was only 310whp lol those cars are beast so props to mercedes for that idea.
Uh, it is mostly software, the throttle body stuff you are thinking of is with the E55 vs. the other 55 AMG's which had larger throttle bodies.
That is a pretty big jump but not absolutely impossible especially from a big capacity V8 restricted from the factory. Is the dyno a little stingy, because 401 RWHP seems a little low for a estimated 507-518 flywheel engine. I wonder what kind of drivetrain loss the 7 speed auto has?
That is a pretty big jump but not absolutely impossible especially from a big capacity V8 restricted from the factory. Is the dyno a little stingy, because 401 RWHP seems a little low for a estimated 507-518 flywheel engine. I wonder what kind of drivetrain loss the 7 speed auto has?
I ran my buddies slightly modded DCT recently as well, here's the vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGJS8tPIJ40
Thanks Brotha!
Thanks man!
That is a pretty big jump but not absolutely impossible especially from a big capacity V8 restricted from the factory. Is the dyno a little stingy, because 401 RWHP seems a little low for a estimated 507-518 flywheel engine. I wonder what kind of drivetrain loss the 7 speed auto has?
Thanks J!
Last edited by DLSJ5; Sep 9, 2009 at 08:37 AM.



